<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Maybe you could give them backpacks with neuclear batteries and call them "spambusters". </div><div><br></div><div>Don't cross the streams! <br><br>On 18/02/2009, at 4:15 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Does the anti-spam team have guns and a special-ops group yet? If not, why not?<div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 18/02/2009, at 4:02 PM, David Zielezna wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-AU" vlink="purple" link="blue"><div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">G'day mate,</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">You can get in touch with the Anti-Spam Team people through this form:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp" href="http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp">http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp</a></a></font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">They will answer all your queries.</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="371333105-18022009"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><font size="2">Regards,<br><br>David Zielezna<br>Senior IT Technical Officer<br>e-Security & DNCR Section<br>Australian Communications and Media Authority<br><br>p. +61 3 9963 6790<br>f. +61 3 9963 6957</font></font></span></div></font></div><br><div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a></a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ben Cornish<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:30 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[AusNOG] Emails Lists - legal obligations<br></font><br></div><div></div><div><div class="Section1"><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We have a couple of clients that have mass email lists to their clients. Touch wood we haven’t had any spam complaints, but I guess its only a matter of time.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We are quite concerned about the implications they pose to us and what the legal obligation they have to conform to in order to send these mass emails out.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Does anyone have a link to where it states what is required or what is considered illegal distribution/SPAM ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I once recall, they were required to have a Dual Opt in and a unsubscribe feature ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></div><div style="font-size: 11pt; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Any help would be grateful.<o:p></o:p></div></div> </div><table height="115" cellspacing="0" bordercolordark="#ffffff" cellpadding="0" width="680" bordercolorlight="#ffffff" border="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td height="50" style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none; "><table height="183" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="680" border="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td height="183" style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none; "><a></a><table height="182" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="680" border="0" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; "><tbody><tr><td valign="top" height="18" style="border-right-width: medium; 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