<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 19/03/2008, at 10:37 PM, Kim Davies wrote:</div><div><blockquote type="cite">On 19/03/08 8:33 AM, "Stephen Baxter"<br><<a href="mailto:Stephen.Baxter@staff.pipenetworks.com">Stephen.Baxter@staff.pipenetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks for the feedback Matthew. We would welcome a chat about the best<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">way not to cause operational issues - as mentioned this effort is to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">help the community get more 6 aware.<br></blockquote><br>You could take the dog food approach recently demonstrated at other venues,<br>and make the next AusNOG a v6-only affair. Or would that drive away<br>attendance? :)</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Allot seems to have been learnt by the community during the dog food tasting sessions, here is a small collection of the postings things learnt to date (collected by Ralph Droms in case you wondering which Ralph).</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: arial; font-size: 14px; "><ul><li><strong>Slashdot: "<a class="natExternalLink" target="_blank" href="http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/251582607/article.pl" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(153, 153, 102); font-family: arial, sans-serif; "><</a><a href="http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/251582607/article.pl">The Night the IETF Shut Off IPv4"</a>:</strong> IP Freely writes "At this year's Internet Engineering Task Force meeting in Philadelphia, <a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ietf-ipv6-switchoff.ars">conference organizers shut off IPv4 for an hour</a>. Surprisingly, chaos did not ensue. After everyone got his or her system up and running, many people started looking for IPv6-reachable web sites, reporting those over Jabber instant messaging - which posed its own challenges in the IPv6 department. I was surprised at the number of sites and wide range of content available over IPv6. Apart from - obviously - IPv6-related sites; they ranged from 'largest Gregorian music collection in Internet' to 'hardcore torrents.' Virtually none of the better known web destinations were reachable over IPv6. That changed when <a href="http://ipv6.google.com/">ipv6.google.com</a> (reachable <strong>only</strong> through IPv6) popped into existence."</li><li><br></li><li>(Ralph) I was at the IETF meeting and participated in the experiment. After manually configuring addresses for two IPv6-reachable DNS servers (for ideological reasons, Apple has not included a DHCPv6 client with OS X), IPv6 "just worked" for me. I used Safari extensively throughout the experiment, and found there were more IPv6-reachable sites than I expected, but ipv6.google.com was the only major site I could access. Halfway through the experiment, we were given IPv6 addresses for access to gmail. I also participated in the experiment Jabber chat room, accessible through an IPv6-aware Jabber server set up by the IETF, through both Adium and iChat.<br><p>More details area available here:</p><ul><li><a href="http://wiki.tools.isoc.org/IETF71_IPv4_Outage">ISOC wiki page on "IETF71 IPv4 Outage"</a></li><li><a href="http://wiki.tools.isoc.org/IETF71_IPv4_Outage/IETF71_IPv4_Outage_Experiences">ISOC blog for experiences with the experiment</a>, including several useful lists of IPv6-accessible websites</li><li><a href="http://www.civil-tongue.net/6and4">IPv4 / IPv6 Operational Information Collection</a><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></li></ul></li><li><strong>NANOG runs "IPv6 hour":</strong> an hour of IPv6-only networking on the conference network<ul><li>Summary:<ul><li>IPv6 access to Internet can be made to work, but...</li><li>...there's just not a lot of native IPv6 content, yet</li><li>IPv6<->IPv6 translation is problematic (including Cisco NAT-PT)</li><li>Windows XP can be patched with an IPv6 stack but needs IPv4 for DNS</li><li>OS X requires manual config for DNS servers (no DHCPv6!)</li></ul></li><li><a href="http://www.civil-tongue.net/clusterf/wiki/nanog42">Some details about the NANOG event</a></li><li><a href="http://www.civil-tongue.net/clusterf/wiki/apricot2008">A similar event at APRICOT</a></li><li><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25180">Pre-event article by Jeff Doyle (Network World)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/25276">Post-mortem by Doyle</a></li></ul></li></ul></span></div><div><div>- Ric</div><div><br></div></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>kim<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net">AusNOG@ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>