<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Just had a look on one of our MCI connected borders. They aren't advertising that prefix to us at all. Only place I can see it is via AAPT through Perth (with a long prepended path)<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> 2764 17918 10084 10084 10084 10084 10084 10084 24381 24381 24381 24381 24381</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>David</DIV><DIV>...<BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Cole, Patrick" <<A href="mailto:patrick.cole@transact.com.au">patrick.cole@transact.com.au</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">1 November 2007 8:40:57 PM</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<A href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</A>>, "Guennadi M" <<A href="mailto:gmoukine@staff.fasthit.net.au">gmoukine@staff.fasthit.net.au</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Cc: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</A></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [AusNOG] Transact and grapevine can see our network</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">G'day,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I've been looking into this issue.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Our best egress route to FastHit is through MCI.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>This is very suspect, as even though they are advertising the route they don't seem to be able to reach it (it goes to the USA and stops there). <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Has anyone else with transit through MCI tried? <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">For the time being I've statically routed your network through AAPT and it seems to be working fine now.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I have also asked the MCI NOC to investigate.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">*>i 202.53.4.0/22<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>221.133.202.109 72<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>100<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>703 701 3561 7473 7474 9787 24381 i</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I suspect the real problem probably lies somewhere further down the line, but hopefully they can work it out.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">traceroute to fasthit.net.au (202.53.5.37), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>liatu.neocom (10.1.0.1)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.191 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.150 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.106 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>atm1-0-110887.erx01.gate.transact.net.au (202.55.149.245)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4.395 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>16.037 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>6.980 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>ve1102-1g.border01.gate.transact.net.au (202.55.144.25)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.159 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.434 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.126 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>gigabitethernet0-3-550.cor1.can.connect.com.au (61.69.5.6)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.734 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.645 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.350 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>5<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>ge-1-3-0.dst2.can.connect.com.au (210.8.107.146)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.689 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>5.215 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4.196 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>6<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>so-2-0-1.cre1.can.connect.com.au (202.10.0.149)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.984 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>5.314 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.710 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>7<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as0.cre2.can.connect.com.au (202.10.0.91)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4.455 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4.014 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4.760 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>8<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as3.cre1.mel.connect.com.au (202.10.0.43)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>18.666 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>20.521 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>16.746 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>9<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as0.cre1.bur.connect.com.au (202.10.0.65)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>15.985 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>17.449 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>17.191 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">10<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as2.cre1.stc.connect.com.au (202.10.0.233)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>25.594 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>25.033 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>33.129 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">11<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as1.cre2.per.connect.com.au (202.10.0.51)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>55.386 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>67.760 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>83.881 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">12<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>so-0-0-1.dst2.per.connect.com.au (202.10.0.166)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>53.955 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.886 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>57.795 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">13<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>gigabitethernet0-1.cor1.per.connect.com.au (203.63.171.19)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.327 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>55.663 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>55.341 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">14<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>DWES136581-2.gw.connect.com.au (61.69.5.197)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>62.509 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.818 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>55.794 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">15<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>203.161.15.6 (203.161.15.6)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>53.985 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>57.436 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.192 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">16<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Gig3-1.esr.coll.brightonline.com.au (203.161.15.33)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>59.933 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>59.754 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>60.198 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">17<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>203.161.12.33 (203.161.12.33)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>61.600 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>62.040 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>60.868 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">18<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>waix-per-brd2.fasthit.net.au (202.53.4.230)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>65.332 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>62.106 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>62.646 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Regards,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Patrick</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Patrick Cole <<A href="mailto:Patrick.Cole@transact.com.au">Patrick.Cole@transact.com.au</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Senior Network Engineer</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">TransACT</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Telephone: 02 6229 8115</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Facsimile: 02 6229 8077</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Mobile: 0410 626 630</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">PO Box 1006 Civic Square ACT 2608</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">www.transact.com.au</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-----Original Message-----</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: <A href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net</A> on behalf of Matthew Moyle-Croft</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 5:49 PM</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: Guennadi M</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Cc: <A href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transact and grapevine can see our network</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Given both you and TransACT seem to have AAPT in common for transit, I'd<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">call AAPT and lodge a fault with them.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Either that or try contacting TransACT (I don't have any advice on how<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">if you're not a customer or have some kind of relationship with them).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">MMC</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Guennadi M wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Reverse traceroutes can be done from</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://network.fasthit.net/cgi-bin/trace">http://network.fasthit.net/cgi-bin/trace</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Here is a traceroute output, and no, we can't connect on port 80 / view</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">their site. Where should we go next?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">traceroute to <A href="http://www.transact.com.au">www.transact.com.au</A> (202.14.248.160), 64 hops max, 44 byte</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">packets</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>per-core1.fasthit.net.au (202.53.4.2)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.562 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.487 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.518 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>per-brd0.fasthit.net.au (202.53.4.253)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1.079 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.964 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0.817 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>fasthit-transit-link-1-2.conceptual.net.au (203.190.192.178)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1.809 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1.833 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1.691 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>4<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>59.154.14.81 (59.154.14.81)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>37.975 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.988 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.567 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>5<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>61.88.166.66 (61.88.166.66)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.835 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.724 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.573 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>6<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>ge-0-1-0.dst1.per.connect.com.au (203.63.171.29)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1.957 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>3.160 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3.153 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>7<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>so-2-0-0.cre2.per.connect.com.au (202.10.0.163)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.546 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2.836 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">4.271 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>8<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as1.cre1.stc.connect.com.au (202.10.0.50)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>32.842 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>32.831 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>32.552</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>9<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as2.cre1.bur.connect.com.au (202.10.0.232)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>44.923 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>42.636 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>42.584</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">10<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as0.cre1.mel.connect.com.au (202.10.0.64)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>42.319 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>42.055 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>44.876</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">11<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as3.cre2.can.connect.com.au (202.10.0.42)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>52.956 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.946 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.376</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">12<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>so-0-1-0.dst2.can.connect.com.au (202.10.0.150)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>56.568 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.520 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">53.970 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">13<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>gigabitethernet0-1.cor1.can.connect.com.au (210.8.107.138)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.151 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">53.451 ms<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>54.068 ms</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">14<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>* * *</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">15<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>* * *</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-----Original Message-----</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [<A href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mailto:mmc@internode.com.au</A>]<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 2:37 PM</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: Guennadi M</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Cc: <A href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transact and grapevine can see our network</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Have you at least done a traceroute to <A href="http://www.transact.com.au">www.transact.com.au</A>?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you telnet to <A href="http://www.transact.com.au">www.transact.com.au</A> does it connect?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I can get to TransACT just fine, but I peer with them in Canberra.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">MMC</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Guennadi M wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi -</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">We have some clients claiming that they can't see our network (ie their</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">web</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sites hosted with us), but it's very hard to get them to do any tests to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">work out what could be happening here.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">They use <A href="http://www.transact.com.au">www.transact.com.au</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>and <A href="http://www.grapevine.com.au">www.grapevine.com.au</A> ISP. We're AS24381</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and a test IP 202.53.4.155</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Any help/ pointers would be appreciated.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Guennadi M</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fast Hit</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">www.fasthit.net</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">AusNOG mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net">AusNOG@ausnog.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Matthew Moyle-Croft - Internode/Agile - Networks</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Level 3, 132 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Email: <A href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Web: <A href="http://www.on.net">http://www.on.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Direct: +61-8-8228-2909<SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Mobile: +61-419-900-366</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Reception: +61-8-8228-2999<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Fax: +61-8-8235-6909</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>"The difficulty lies, not in the new ideas,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>but in escaping from the old ones" - John Maynard Keynes</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">AusNOG mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net">AusNOG@ausnog.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://www.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>