From david at hughes.id  Sun Feb  4 14:00:47 2024
From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 13:00:47 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2024 sponsorship opportunities
Message-ID: <14A9A5BC-A782-48E9-9DF0-EF593E321E15@hughes.id>

Hi all,

We're creating more opportunities for companies in our industry to promote themselves in conjunction with the AusNOG 2024 conference.  If this is of interest to you, please sign up to our mailing list at the link below.  We'll be sending out details about opportunities for AusNOG 2024 in the coming days.

	https://www.ausnog.net/lists/sponsorship


Thanks

David
...

From hudrob at gmail.com  Mon Feb  5 09:03:58 2024
From: hudrob at gmail.com (Robert Hudson)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 09:03:58 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Security contact at Internode/iiNet/TPG
Message-ID: <CAOu9xNKjKTvhdtfzergY47_L9mqwDmOKuwwDg9it9B0umUCojg@mail.gmail.com>

I've emailed abuse at intenode but it bounces with a content warning.  There's
a phishing and MFA issue that I suspect someone there should know about.
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From Ben.Ricardo at acs.com.au  Mon Feb  5 09:27:33 2024
From: Ben.Ricardo at acs.com.au (Ben Ricardo)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 22:27:33 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Contact for Commander M2 Vocus NOC
Message-ID: <7abf4588f1ba48c099b5493c3f887e32@acs.com.au>

Hey all,
	Just wondering if someone has the NOC contact details for Commander/M2/Vocus ?
Just got a routing issue in their network that needs looking at.

Cheers,
Ben


Ben Ricardo?| Senior Technician |? M Net&SysAdmin, MCITP-SA, CEHv8, ITIL
Australian Computer Solutions Pty Ltd | 2/28 Barralong Rd Erina NSW 2250?| 
P: 02 4365 2727 or 1300-807-131 | F: 02 4365 2304 | E: ben.ricardo at acs.com.au
Twitter: @austcompso



From phil.mawson at gmail.com  Mon Feb  5 09:30:30 2024
From: phil.mawson at gmail.com (Phil Mawson)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 09:30:30 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Contact for Commander M2 Vocus NOC
In-Reply-To: <7abf4588f1ba48c099b5493c3f887e32@acs.com.au>
References: <7abf4588f1ba48c099b5493c3f887e32@acs.com.au>
Message-ID: <1ED5D100-2482-4739-A40F-BFC18FA236AC@gmail.com>

Hi Ben,

I?ve reached out directly off list.

Cheers,
Phil
AS4826


> On 5 Feb 2024, at 9:27?am, Ben Ricardo <Ben.Ricardo at acs.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 	Just wondering if someone has the NOC contact details for Commander/M2/Vocus ?
> Just got a routing issue in their network that needs looking at.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben
> 
> 
> Ben Ricardo | Senior Technician |  M Net&SysAdmin, MCITP-SA, CEHv8, ITIL
> Australian Computer Solutions Pty Ltd | 2/28 Barralong Rd Erina NSW 2250 | 
> P: 02 4365 2727 or 1300-807-131 | F: 02 4365 2304 | E: ben.ricardo at acs.com.au
> Twitter: @austcompso
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog


From technical at halenet.com.au  Mon Feb  5 17:51:46 2024
From: technical at halenet.com.au (Tim McCullagh)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:51:46 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Is anyone on ausnog from gmail
References: <CAMpV8MoywtvMAQ5crhS3JZBEeYBvceeEjrOQNvzwRZn1AgzKGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0581BCF6-E04C-4328-BA3E-EBB385B5E930@langshaw.id.au>
Message-ID: <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>

Sorry for the noise,  but is there anyone on the list from gmail?

Is anyone else having trouble with delivery to gmail.   My customers are 
getting the following messages

<xxxxxx at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[172.217.194.26]
    said: 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      12] Gmail has detected that this
    message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of
spam
    sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. For more
    information, go to 550 5.7.1
    https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
    bz9-20020a056a02060900b005cdffc2828esi7631435pgb.182 - gsmtp (in reply
to
    end of DATA command)

and


<info at xxxxxart.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com[172.253.118.26] said:
    550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      19] Gmail has detected that this message 
is
    550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the 
sending
    550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message has 
been
    550-5.7.1 blocked. For more information, go to 550 5.7.1
    https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
    e13-20020a63f54d000000b005ce025116bbsi12152612pgk.858 - gsmtp (in reply 
to
    end of DATA command)


Ive been through my mail logs and cant find any reason why email is being 
blocked from the mail server.  There has been no misuse of late.    There 
was on another hosting server which is in my spf record. The hosting server had a customer account  misused via sasl auth.  That 
was fixed 8 days ago.  Are gmail blocking on domain name now and not IP 
address / host name

I have added the google verification IN TXT in DNS


Is anyone else having or had  issues like this ?

Can anyone recomend a contact for google / gmail?  or a fix / work around



Regards

Tim

HaleNET Internet
ABN:  57 014 068 268
e-mail admin at halenet.com.au
http://www.halenet.com.au
P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380
Phone  (07) 46814999 Bus Hours
Phone  (07) 46852194 After Hours

HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121)
as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust
Trading as HaleNET
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From glp71s at gmail.com  Mon Feb  5 18:01:22 2024
From: glp71s at gmail.com (Giles Pollock)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 18:01:22 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Is anyone on ausnog from gmail
In-Reply-To: <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>
References: <CAMpV8MoywtvMAQ5crhS3JZBEeYBvceeEjrOQNvzwRZn1AgzKGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0581BCF6-E04C-4328-BA3E-EBB385B5E930@langshaw.id.au>
 <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>
Message-ID: <CAJQ50upo=XVOkhWtHsLjDMWzWChLG-5mSxA8wTer1vNQNKgRvA@mail.gmail.com>

Likely to be this...
https://blog.google/products/gmail/gmail-security-authentication-spam-protection/

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 5:52?PM Tim McCullagh <technical at halenet.com.au>
wrote:

> Sorry for the noise,  but is there anyone on the list from gmail?
>
> Is anyone else having trouble with delivery to gmail.   My customers are
> getting the following messages
>
> <xxxxxx at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[172.217.194.26]
>     said: 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      12] Gmail has detected that this
>     message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of
> spam
>     sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. For more
>     information, go to 550 5.7.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
>     bz9-20020a056a02060900b005cdffc2828esi7631435pgb.182 - gsmtp (in reply
> to
>     end of DATA command)
>
> and
>
>
> <info at xxxxxart.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com[172.253.118.26] said:
>     550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      19] Gmail has detected that this
> message
> is
>     550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
> sending
>     550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message has
> been
>     550-5.7.1 blocked. For more information, go to 550 5.7.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
>     e13-20020a63f54d000000b005ce025116bbsi12152612pgk.858 - gsmtp (in
> reply
> to
>     end of DATA command)
>
>
> Ive been through my mail logs and cant find any reason why email is being
> blocked from the mail server.  There has been no misuse of late.    There
> was on another hosting server which is in my spf record. The hosting
> server had a customer account  misused via sasl auth.  That
> was fixed 8 days ago.  Are gmail blocking on domain name now and not IP
> address / host name
>
> I have added the google verification IN TXT in DNS
>
>
> Is anyone else having or had  issues like this ?
>
> Can anyone recomend a contact for google / gmail?  or a fix / work around
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> HaleNET Internet
> ABN:  57 014 068 268
> e-mail admin at halenet.com.au
> http://www.halenet.com.au
> P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380
> Phone  (07) 46814999 Bus Hours
> Phone  (07) 46852194 After Hours
>
> HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121)
> as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust
> Trading as HaleNET
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From dazzagibbs at gmail.com  Mon Feb  5 19:35:10 2024
From: dazzagibbs at gmail.com (DaZZa)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 19:35:10 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Is anyone on ausnog from gmail
In-Reply-To: <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>
References: <CAMpV8MoywtvMAQ5crhS3JZBEeYBvceeEjrOQNvzwRZn1AgzKGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0581BCF6-E04C-4328-BA3E-EBB385B5E930@langshaw.id.au>
 <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>
Message-ID: <CAMpV8MrUcK9qfk1+sj5q5varOqdpLeBKXPpuWf-qfiYJRcuwBA@mail.gmail.com>

Google and Yahoo have implemented changes recently.

AWS's summary is here

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/messaging-and-targeting/an-overview-of-bulk-sender-changes-at-yahoo-gmail/

You're likely getting caught up in that.

D

On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, 5:52 pm Tim McCullagh, <technical at halenet.com.au> wrote:

> Sorry for the noise,  but is there anyone on the list from gmail?
>
> Is anyone else having trouble with delivery to gmail.   My customers are
> getting the following messages
>
> <xxxxxx at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[172.217.194.26]
>     said: 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      12] Gmail has detected that this
>     message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of
> spam
>     sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. For more
>     information, go to 550 5.7.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
>     bz9-20020a056a02060900b005cdffc2828esi7631435pgb.182 - gsmtp (in reply
> to
>     end of DATA command)
>
> and
>
>
> <info at xxxxxart.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com[172.253.118.26] said:
>     550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      19] Gmail has detected that this
> message
> is
>     550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
> sending
>     550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message has
> been
>     550-5.7.1 blocked. For more information, go to 550 5.7.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
>     e13-20020a63f54d000000b005ce025116bbsi12152612pgk.858 - gsmtp (in
> reply
> to
>     end of DATA command)
>
>
> Ive been through my mail logs and cant find any reason why email is being
> blocked from the mail server.  There has been no misuse of late.    There
> was on another hosting server which is in my spf record. The hosting
> server had a customer account  misused via sasl auth.  That
> was fixed 8 days ago.  Are gmail blocking on domain name now and not IP
> address / host name
>
> I have added the google verification IN TXT in DNS
>
>
> Is anyone else having or had  issues like this ?
>
> Can anyone recomend a contact for google / gmail?  or a fix / work around
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> HaleNET Internet
> ABN:  57 014 068 268
> e-mail admin at halenet.com.au
> http://www.halenet.com.au
> P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380
> Phone  (07) 46814999 Bus Hours
> Phone  (07) 46852194 After Hours
>
> HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121)
> as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust
> Trading as HaleNET
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From brad at nimbus.net.au  Mon Feb  5 21:57:16 2024
From: brad at nimbus.net.au (Brad Eckert)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 21:57:16 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Is anyone on ausnog from gmail
In-Reply-To: <CAMpV8MrUcK9qfk1+sj5q5varOqdpLeBKXPpuWf-qfiYJRcuwBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMpV8MoywtvMAQ5crhS3JZBEeYBvceeEjrOQNvzwRZn1AgzKGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0581BCF6-E04C-4328-BA3E-EBB385B5E930@langshaw.id.au>
 <74426A7C505C4F1888E793785EFD8F15@hal>
 <CAMpV8MrUcK9qfk1+sj5q5varOqdpLeBKXPpuWf-qfiYJRcuwBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACj62ECusByhVBCee9DieYBVmndAFXjU-G9xNAfvi91NnzpvTQ@mail.gmail.com>

The way this was implemented is very frustrating. I assisted a few orgs
that, I had done consultancy for prior. But many out there are only just
now, going to notice and go WTF?

And these are not black and white, meaning that is you move into a
"compliant" state with regards to SPF, DKIM and blah signed TXT records.
The  "reputation" of the now tainted domain will take some time to correct
itself.

Google will not resolve this. The reputation will need to build back up,
you can email my address direct. As I have Google Workspaces Enterprise
with all the verbose logging for mail. Validating the delivery to gmail
workspaces vs vanilla freemium gmail accounts would be interesting.

You could also build a sub domain, marketing email comms often use this
method of sending via noreply at info.example.com .. default policy  allows
then penalises if you do not tick the boxes (there are many others beyond
just TXT signing .. reverse-dns etc.

Could this all be a ploy to nudge small to medium biz to sign up for Google
Workspaces as their business fails without email ? hmm

Regards,

Brad


On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 at 19:35, DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Google and Yahoo have implemented changes recently.
>
> AWS's summary is here
>
>
> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/messaging-and-targeting/an-overview-of-bulk-sender-changes-at-yahoo-gmail/
>
> You're likely getting caught up in that.
>
> D
>
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, 5:52 pm Tim McCullagh, <technical at halenet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the noise,  but is there anyone on the list from gmail?
>>
>> Is anyone else having trouble with delivery to gmail.   My customers are
>> getting the following messages
>>
>> <xxxxxx at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[172.217.194.26]
>>     said: 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      12] Gmail has detected that this
>>     message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of
>> spam
>>     sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. For more
>>     information, go to 550 5.7.1
>>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
>>     bz9-20020a056a02060900b005cdffc2828esi7631435pgb.182 - gsmtp (in reply
>> to
>>     end of DATA command)
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>> <info at xxxxxart.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com[172.253.118.26] said:
>>     550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      19] Gmail has detected that this
>> message
>> is
>>     550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
>> sending
>>     550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message
>> has
>> been
>>     550-5.7.1 blocked. For more information, go to 550 5.7.1
>>     https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
>>     e13-20020a63f54d000000b005ce025116bbsi12152612pgk.858 - gsmtp (in
>> reply
>> to
>>     end of DATA command)
>>
>>
>> Ive been through my mail logs and cant find any reason why email is being
>> blocked from the mail server.  There has been no misuse of late.    There
>> was on another hosting server which is in my spf record. The hosting
>> server had a customer account  misused via sasl auth.  That
>> was fixed 8 days ago.  Are gmail blocking on domain name now and not IP
>> address / host name
>>
>> I have added the google verification IN TXT in DNS
>>
>>
>> Is anyone else having or had  issues like this ?
>>
>> Can anyone recomend a contact for google / gmail?  or a fix / work around
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> HaleNET Internet
>> ABN:  57 014 068 268
>> e-mail admin at halenet.com.au
>> http://www.halenet.com.au
>> P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380
>> Phone  (07) 46814999 Bus Hours
>> Phone  (07) 46852194 After Hours
>>
>> HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121)
>> as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust
>> Trading as HaleNET
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From dave.taht at gmail.com  Tue Feb  6 05:01:22 2024
From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 13:01:22 -0500
Subject: [AusNOG] If you haven't had the time,
	energy or money to try libreqos
Message-ID: <CAA93jw46D2CZad2ACHFmN1yy7C-Kqx7Qsu5XDEJ8FZSrnh1HfQ@mail.gmail.com>

These folk are putting out some grant money. We (libreqos) are very
interested in seeing what can be done to replace brittle policers, and
improve wireless long and short haul networks and would love to see
someone attempting an ISP or IXP sized deployment down there...

https://apnic.foundation/2024-isif-asia-applications-now-open/


-- 
40 years of net history, a couple songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
Dave T?ht CSO, LibreQos

From Clovis at netcore.com.au  Tue Feb  6 14:18:23 2024
From: Clovis at netcore.com.au (Steve Dimitrio)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 03:18:23 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
Message-ID: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]


seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections




Steve Dimitrio
Netcore PTY LTD
Office: 03 9725 1469
Mobile: 0411175886

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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Feb  6 14:25:51 2024
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 03:25:51 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

That doesn't look bad, what are the next few hops?

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Steve Dimitrio
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]


seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections




Steve Dimitrio
Netcore PTY LTD
Office: 03 9725 1469
Mobile: 0411175886

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From Clovis at netcore.com.au  Tue Feb  6 14:28:51 2024
From: Clovis at netcore.com.au (Steve Dimitrio)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 03:28:51 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5     *       77 ms    77 ms  po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]
  6    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.51
  7     *       76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.120
  8    75 ms    75 ms    75 ms  te2-1-111.mflindist02.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.169]
  9    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au [203.131.61.13]
10    81 ms    81 ms    81 ms  210.87.55.34

From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:26 PM
To: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

That doesn't look bad, what are the next few hops?

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Steve Dimitrio
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]


seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections




Steve Dimitrio
Netcore PTY LTD
Office: 03 9725 1469
Mobile: 0411175886

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From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  6 14:32:29 2024
From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 11:32:29 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <CAKZcER5d1rSg_9fU0x1qEsBCZyBm-GVVBZXDDnnWPLE5BR9VXw@mail.gmail.com>

Escalate it to your account manager.
This is not a Tech support channel :)

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:29?AM Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>
wrote:

> 1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms
> Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
>
>   2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms
> bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
>
>   3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms
> bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
>
>   4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net
> [139.130.48.226]
>
>   5     *       77 ms    77 ms  po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au
> [202.10.12.42]
>
>   6    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.51
>
>   7     *       76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.120
>
>   8    75 ms    75 ms    75 ms  te2-1-111.mflindist02.aapt.net.au
> [202.10.12.169]
>
>   9    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au
> [203.131.61.13]
>
> 10    81 ms    81 ms    81 ms  210.87.55.34
>
>
>
> *From:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:26 PM
> *To:* Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
>
>
> That doesn?t look bad, what are the next few hops?
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Steve
> Dimitrio
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
>
>
> 1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms
> Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
>
>   2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms
> bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
>
>   3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms
> bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
>
>   4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net
> [139.130.48.226]
>
> *  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au
> <http://po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au> [202.10.12.42]*
>
>
>
>
>
> seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Dimitrio
>
> Netcore PTY LTD
>
> Office: 03 9725 1469
>
> Mobile: 0411175886
>
>
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Feb  6 14:37:55 2024
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 03:37:55 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB252033CC6752571D9816F9F8DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Looks like an issue with that path from Telstra Melbourne and how it touches AAPT's network, I'm not seeing this from Sydney via Telstra.

4  ae25.alx-edge411.sydney.telstra.net (138.217.142.213)  0.286 ms  0.262 ms  0.240 ms
5  bundle-ether50.hay-core30.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.12.130)  1.939 ms  12.800 ms  1.913 ms
6  bundle-ether1.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.173)  0.836 ms  0.970 ms  1.134 ms
7  aap3461200.lnk.telstra.net (110.145.193.106)  1.527 ms  1.656 ms  1.632 ms
8  * * *
9  bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)  13.753 ms  14.442 ms  14.423 ms
10  bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)  14.082 ms bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)  14.392 ms  14.373 ms
11  bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)  14.030 ms  14.098 ms 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)  14.373 ms
12  * 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)  14.337 ms  14.316 ms
13  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au (203.131.61.13)  13.430 ms * *
14  210.87.55.34 (210.87.55.34)  18.443 ms  18.403 ms  18.169 ms

From: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:29 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5     *       77 ms    77 ms  po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]
  6    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.51
  7     *       76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.120
  8    75 ms    75 ms    75 ms  te2-1-111.mflindist02.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.169]
  9    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au [203.131.61.13]
10    81 ms    81 ms    81 ms  210.87.55.34

From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:26 PM
To: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au<mailto:Clovis at netcore.com.au>>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

That doesn't look bad, what are the next few hops?

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Steve Dimitrio
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]


seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections




Steve Dimitrio
Netcore PTY LTD
Office: 03 9725 1469
Mobile: 0411175886

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From Clovis at netcore.com.au  Tue Feb  6 14:39:04 2024
From: Clovis at netcore.com.au (Steve Dimitrio)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 03:39:04 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB252033CC6752571D9816F9F8DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <ME3P282MB1106F80C860D072F5C942395E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Well done that's right! Spoken to another guy who agrees

From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:38 PM
To: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

Looks like an issue with that path from Telstra Melbourne and how it touches AAPT's network, I'm not seeing this from Sydney via Telstra.

4  ae25.alx-edge411.sydney.telstra.net (138.217.142.213)  0.286 ms  0.262 ms  0.240 ms
5  bundle-ether50.hay-core30.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.12.130)  1.939 ms  12.800 ms  1.913 ms
6  bundle-ether1.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.173)  0.836 ms  0.970 ms  1.134 ms
7  aap3461200.lnk.telstra.net (110.145.193.106)  1.527 ms  1.656 ms  1.632 ms
8  * * *
9  bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)  13.753 ms  14.442 ms  14.423 ms
10  bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)  14.082 ms bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)  14.392 ms  14.373 ms
11  bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)  14.030 ms  14.098 ms 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)  14.373 ms
12  * 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)  14.337 ms  14.316 ms
13  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au (203.131.61.13)  13.430 ms * *
14  210.87.55.34 (210.87.55.34)  18.443 ms  18.403 ms  18.169 ms

From: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au<mailto:Clovis at netcore.com.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:29 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5     *       77 ms    77 ms  po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]
  6    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.51
  7     *       76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.120
  8    75 ms    75 ms    75 ms  te2-1-111.mflindist02.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.169]
  9    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au [203.131.61.13]
10    81 ms    81 ms    81 ms  210.87.55.34

From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:26 PM
To: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au<mailto:Clovis at netcore.com.au>>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

That doesn't look bad, what are the next few hops?

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Steve Dimitrio
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

1     2 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.48.226]
  5    76 ms    76 ms     *     po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]


seeing latency  when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections




Steve Dimitrio
Netcore PTY LTD
Office: 03 9725 1469
Mobile: 0411175886

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From luke at iggleden.com  Tue Feb  6 14:44:39 2024
From: luke at iggleden.com (Luke Iggleden)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 14:44:39 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB1106F80C860D072F5C942395E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB252033CC6752571D9816F9F8DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <d00dd62e-2eaf-4652-98b6-74df28432029@iggleden.com>

We have a MLL down NSW south coast to Sydney, Telstra issue seems to be 
between Deakin to SYD as reported... could be related.


On 6/2/2024 2:39 pm, Steve Dimitrio wrote:
>
> Well done that?s right! Spoken to another guy who agrees
>
> *From:*Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:38 PM
> *To:* Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
> Looks like an issue with that path from Telstra Melbourne and how it 
> touches AAPT?s network, I?m not seeing this from Sydney via Telstra.
>
> 4? ae25.alx-edge411.sydney.telstra.net (138.217.142.213)? 0.286 ms? 
> 0.262 ms? 0.240 ms
>
> 5 bundle-ether50.hay-core30.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.12.130) 1.939 
> ms? 12.800 ms? 1.913 ms
>
> 6 bundle-ether1.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.173) 0.836 
> ms? 0.970 ms? 1.134 ms
>
> 7? aap3461200.lnk.telstra.net (110.145.193.106)? 1.527 ms? 1.656 ms? 
> 1.632 ms
>
> 8? * * *
>
> 9? bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)? 13.753 ms? 14.442 ms? 
> 14.423 ms
>
> 10? bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)? 14.082 ms 
> bu12.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.9)? 14.392 ms? 14.373 ms
>
> 11? bu1.AU-VI-BURN-COR-01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.75)? 14.030 ms? 
> 14.098 ms 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)? 14.373 ms
>
> 12? * 202.10.10.139 (202.10.10.139)? 14.337 ms? 14.316 ms
>
> 13? 5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au (203.131.61.13)? 13.430 ms * *
>
> 14? 210.87.55.34 (210.87.55.34)? 18.443 ms 18.403 ms? 18.169 ms
>
> *From:*Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:29 PM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; 
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
> 1???? 1 ms???? 1 ms???? 1 ms 
> Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
>
> ? 2???? 1 ms???? 2 ms???? 1 ms 
> bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
>
> ? 3???? 1 ms???? 1 ms???? 1 ms 
> bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
>
> ? 4???? 1 ms???? 1 ms???? 1 ms? aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net 
> [139.130.48.226]
>
> ? 5 *?????? 77 ms??? 77 ms? po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.42]
>
> ? 6??? 76 ms??? 76 ms??? 76 ms? 202.10.12.51
>
> ? 7 *?????? 76 ms??? 76 ms? 202.10.12.120
>
> ? 8??? 75 ms??? 75 ms??? 75 ms? te2-1-111.mflindist02.aapt.net.au 
> [202.10.12.169]
>
> ? 9??? 76 ms??? 76 ms??? 76 ms? 5-1-1.mflininte01.aapt.net.au 
> [203.131.61.13]
>
> 10??? 81 ms??? 81 ms??? 81 ms? 210.87.55.34
>
> *From:*Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:26 PM
> *To:* Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
> That doesn?t look bad, what are the next few hops?
>
> *From:*AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Steve 
> Dimitrio
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 2:18 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] AAPT latency
>
> 1???? 2 ms???? 1 ms??? <1 ms 
> Bundle-Ether1053-398.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net [203.54.234.229]
>
> ? 2???? 1 ms???? 1 ms???? 1 ms 
> bundle-ether11.exi-core30.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.113]
>
> ? 3???? 4 ms???? 3 ms???? 1 ms 
> bundle-ether1.lon-edge903.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.199]
>
> ? 4???? 1 ms???? 1 ms???? 1 ms? aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net 
> [139.130.48.226]
>
> *? 5??? 76 ms??? 76 ms???? *???? po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au 
> [202.10.12.42]*
>
> seeing latency ?when we hit aapt from the outside via NBN connections
>
> Steve Dimitrio
>
> Netcore PTY LTD
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From tony at wicks.co.nz  Tue Feb  6 15:14:02 2024
From: tony at wicks.co.nz (Tony Wicks)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 17:14:02 +1300
Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT latency
In-Reply-To: <CAKZcER5d1rSg_9fU0x1qEsBCZyBm-GVVBZXDDnnWPLE5BR9VXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ME3P282MB1106E7CCBFD725E171BDE620E7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB2520434943163310BE3771B3DB462@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <ME3P282MB1106CED3F95E548B01F3EE8AE7462@ME3P282MB1106.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <01f701da58b2$edf0b890$c9d229b0$@wicks.co.nz>

I would submit that ?I?m seeing potentially unusual network behaviour on the interconnect between network A and network B, is anyone else seeing it? is exactly what a network operators group is for.

 

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Mitch Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:32 PM
To: Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT latency

 

Escalate it to your account manager.

This is not a Tech support channel :)

 

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:29?AM Steve Dimitrio <Clovis at netcore.com.au <mailto:Clovis at netcore.com.au> > wrote:

  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net <http://aap3854405.lnk.telstra.net>  [139.130.48.226]

  5     *       77 ms    77 ms  po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au <http://po13.sglobdist01.aapt.net.au>  [202.10.12.42]

  6    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  202.10.12.51

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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 08:09:22 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 21:09:22 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
Message-ID: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Hi All,

We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility for a customer in Sydney.

I am looking for options / suggestions for facilities similar to EDC in Melbourne if possible.

Connectivity, power, genset, desks, kitchen, etc.

Approximately 85-100 people in full DR mode.

Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

We're currently in design phase, looking at capability and cost.

Happy to hear off list if more suitable.

Many thanks


Darren.
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From kauer at biplane.com.au  Thu Feb  8 09:31:51 2024
From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 09:31:51 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
Message-ID: <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

-- 
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 09:36:15 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:36:15 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
Message-ID: <80cdab9a5bf647919dbeefddd416d28d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Depending on the event, possibly all of them ?

It will be drive time. Need some physical separation, like we have from Port Melb to Mitcham.



D.

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Karl Auer
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:32 AM
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility [...] Must be 
> at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming time?

Regards, K.

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From nathan at lenevez.net.au  Thu Feb  8 09:39:46 2024
From: nathan at lenevez.net.au (Nathan Le Nevez)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:39:46 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
Message-ID: <SY0PR01MB8633AAA9324ADFB3B8FE5EF3E6452@SY0PR01MB8633.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Mascot (eg. SY1) can be > 30 minutes drive away from Alexandria (eg. SY3) if you pick the right time of day for traffic... ?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:31
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

--
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 09:44:29 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:44:29 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <SY0PR01MB8633AAA9324ADFB3B8FE5EF3E6452@SY0PR01MB8633.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
 <SY0PR01MB8633AAA9324ADFB3B8FE5EF3E6452@SY0PR01MB8633.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <ee1981851982433dab5a182afcc38cbb@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

That?s why I walk between them ?

OK, assume at least 15klms away from Bourke Road, Alexandria.

D.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Le Nevez
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:40 AM
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>; kauer at biplane.com.au
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Mascot (eg. SY1) can be > 30 minutes drive away from Alexandria (eg. SY3) if you pick the right time of day for traffic... ?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:31
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer



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From ben at sellick.id.au  Thu Feb  8 09:50:10 2024
From: ben at sellick.id.au (Ben Sellick)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:50:10 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <ee1981851982433dab5a182afcc38cbb@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
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Message-ID: <SYYP282MB21758D977BB02E7A94946C2AFD452@SYYP282MB2175.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Airtrunk SYD1 is in Western Sydney, seemed to be a popular option for a number of customers (in my previous job) who also had kit in SY3/SY4.

Ben

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Darren Moss
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 9:44 AM
To: Nathan Le Nevez <nathan at lenevez.net.au>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>; kauer at biplane.com.au
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

That?s why I walk between them ?

OK, assume at least 15klms away from Bourke Road, Alexandria.

D.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Nathan Le Nevez
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:40 AM
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>; kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Mascot (eg. SY1) can be > 30 minutes drive away from Alexandria (eg. SY3) if you pick the right time of day for traffic... ?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:31
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>)
http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer



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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 09:54:22 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:54:22 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <SYYP282MB21758D977BB02E7A94946C2AFD452@SYYP282MB2175.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
 <SY0PR01MB8633AAA9324ADFB3B8FE5EF3E6452@SY0PR01MB8633.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <ee1981851982433dab5a182afcc38cbb@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <SYYP282MB21758D977BB02E7A94946C2AFD452@SYYP282MB2175.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <7ebc18d716494bc3adb8c012a1aab84d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Airtrunk is a DC, not a DR site.



D.

From: Ben Sellick <ben at sellick.id.au>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:50 AM
To: Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Airtrunk SYD1 is in Western Sydney, seemed to be a popular option for a number of customers (in my previous job) who also had kit in SY3/SY4.

Ben

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Darren Moss
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 9:44 AM
To: Nathan Le Nevez <nathan at lenevez.net.au<mailto:nathan at lenevez.net.au>>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>; kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

That?s why I walk between them ?

OK, assume at least 15klms away from Bourke Road, Alexandria.

D.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Nathan Le Nevez
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:40 AM
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>; kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Mascot (eg. SY1) can be > 30 minutes drive away from Alexandria (eg. SY3) if you pick the right time of day for traffic... ?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:31
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer



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From ben at sellick.id.au  Thu Feb  8 10:22:15 2024
From: ben at sellick.id.au (Ben Sellick)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:22:15 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <7ebc18d716494bc3adb8c012a1aab84d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <ecee005083dd486565a0a0ecf5e3570d00bc9074.camel@biplane.com.au>
 <SY0PR01MB8633AAA9324ADFB3B8FE5EF3E6452@SY0PR01MB8633.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <ee1981851982433dab5a182afcc38cbb@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
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Message-ID: <SYYP282MB2175DF5FD838E59CE51B475BFD452@SYYP282MB2175.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Admittedly I only realised that I misread your initial email *after* I clicked send ? my bad ? someone needs another coffee.

From: Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 9:54 AM
To: Ben Sellick <ben at sellick.id.au>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Airtrunk is a DC, not a DR site.



D.

From: Ben Sellick <ben at sellick.id.au<mailto:ben at sellick.id.au>>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:50 AM
To: Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au<mailto:Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Airtrunk SYD1 is in Western Sydney, seemed to be a popular option for a number of customers (in my previous job) who also had kit in SY3/SY4.

Ben

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Darren Moss
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 9:44 AM
To: Nathan Le Nevez <nathan at lenevez.net.au<mailto:nathan at lenevez.net.au>>; 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>; kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

That?s why I walk between them ?

OK, assume at least 15klms away from Bourke Road, Alexandria.

D.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Nathan Le Nevez
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:40 AM
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>; kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

Mascot (eg. SY1) can be > 30 minutes drive away from Alexandria (eg. SY3) if you pick the right time of day for traffic... ?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au<mailto:kauer at biplane.com.au>>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:31
To: 'AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 21:09 +0000, Darren Moss wrote:
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility
> [...]
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

Is that ping time, driving time, walking time or running and screaming
time?

Regards, K.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer



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From glenn.satchell at uniq.com.au  Thu Feb  8 12:49:50 2024
From: glenn.satchell at uniq.com.au (glenn.satchell at uniq.com.au)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 12:49:50 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Is anyone on ausnog from gmail
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References: <CAMpV8MoywtvMAQ5crhS3JZBEeYBvceeEjrOQNvzwRZn1AgzKGw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Tim,

Been through this recently. I have a couple of cloud VMs that need to 
send email from my domain. Adding openDKIM fixed that. There's a few 
resources on the net describing the procedure, searching for "install 
opendkim on ubuntu" or whichever linux distro you have will get you 
there. There's sites to test the headers, spaminess, etc, in the 
instructions.

DKIM adds an email header signed with a private key, the public key goes 
in a DNS record so the receiver can validate the header.

regards,

Glenn

On 2024-02-05 19:35, DaZZa wrote:

> Google and Yahoo have implemented changes recently.
> 
> AWS's summary is here
> 
> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/messaging-and-targeting/an-overview-of-bulk-sender-changes-at-yahoo-gmail/
> 
> You're likely getting caught up in that.
> 
> D
> 
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, 5:52 pm Tim McCullagh, <technical at halenet.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for the noise,  but is there anyone on the list from gmail?
>> 
>> Is anyone else having trouble with delivery to gmail.   My customers 
>> are
>> getting the following messages
>> 
>> <xxxxxx at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 
>> [1][172.217.194.26]
>> said: 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      12] Gmail has detected that this
>> message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of
>> spam
>> sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. For more
>> information, go to 550 5.7.1
>> https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError [2]
>> bz9-20020a056a02060900b005cdffc2828esi7631435pgb.182 - gsmtp (in reply
>> to
>> end of DATA command)
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> <info at xxxxxart.com>: host aspmx.l.google.com [3][172.253.118.26] said:
>> 550-5.7.1 [203.17.235.145      19] Gmail has detected that this 
>> message
>> is
>> 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
>> sending
>> 550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message has
>> been
>> 550-5.7.1 blocked. For more information, go to 550 5.7.1
>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 [4]
>> e13-20020a63f54d000000b005ce025116bbsi12152612pgk.858 - gsmtp (in 
>> reply
>> to
>> end of DATA command)
>> 
>> Ive been through my mail logs and cant find any reason why email is 
>> being
>> blocked from the mail server.  There has been no misuse of late.    
>> There
>> was on another hosting server which is in my spf record. The hosting 
>> server had a customer account  misused via sasl auth.  That
>> was fixed 8 days ago.  Are gmail blocking on domain name now and not 
>> IP
>> address / host name
>> 
>> I have added the google verification IN TXT in DNS
>> 
>> Is anyone else having or had  issues like this ?
>> 
>> Can anyone recomend a contact for google / gmail?  or a fix / work 
>> around
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> HaleNET Internet
>> ABN:  57 014 068 268
>> e-mail admin at halenet.com.au
>> http://www.halenet.com.au [5]
>> P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380
>> Phone  (07) 46814999 Bus Hours
>> Phone  (07) 46852194 After Hours
>> 
>> HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121)
>> as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust
>> Trading as HaleNET
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog



Links:
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[1] http://gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
[2] https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
[3] http://aspmx.l.google.com
[4] https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131
[5] http://www.halenet.com.au/
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From tim at jacksons.net.au  Thu Feb  8 14:47:06 2024
From: tim at jacksons.net.au (Tim Jackson)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 14:47:06 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
Message-ID: <CAK47Q1mO-h2aNDuKMvv-OU-imkvDzMgyjMA0e3P8-oGGx8q+XQ@mail.gmail.com>

An on-site barista is included at the Interactive DR site in St Leonards.

But it's only 14.4 km from Bourke Rd Alexandria.

https://www.interactive.com.au/services/business-continuity-site/

* I haven't used them so I don't have any comments/recommendations it just
ticks off your requirements.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 8:09?AM Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility for a customer in
> Sydney.
>
>
>
> I am looking for options / suggestions for facilities similar to EDC in
> Melbourne if possible.
>
>
>
> Connectivity, power, genset, desks, kitchen, etc.
>
>
>
> Approximately 85-100 people in full DR mode.
>
>
>
> Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.
>
>
>
> We?re currently in design phase, looking at capability and cost.
>
>
>
> Happy to hear off list if more suitable.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> Darren.
> _______________________________________________
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> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 14:50:37 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 03:50:37 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney
In-Reply-To: <CAK47Q1mO-h2aNDuKMvv-OU-imkvDzMgyjMA0e3P8-oGGx8q+XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <CAK47Q1mO-h2aNDuKMvv-OU-imkvDzMgyjMA0e3P8-oGGx8q+XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8245de15884b498f9c913fd5cc68e27c@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Hi Tim,

Yes I know the Interactive locations and that?s a good one, however it?s less than 15klms away.

Cheers


D.


From: Tim Jackson <tim at jacksons.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2024 2:47 PM
To: Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney

An on-site barista is included at the Interactive DR site in St Leonards.

But it's only 14.4 km from Bourke Rd Alexandria.

https://www.interactive.com.au/services/business-continuity-site/

* I haven't used them so I don't have any comments/recommendations it just ticks off your requirements.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 8:09?AM Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au<mailto:Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>> wrote:
Hi All,

We have a project to create an off-site full DR facility for a customer in Sydney.

I am looking for options / suggestions for facilities similar to EDC in Melbourne if possible.

Connectivity, power, genset, desks, kitchen, etc.

Approximately 85-100 people in full DR mode.

Must be at least 30 mins away from Alexandria.

We?re currently in design phase, looking at capability and cost.

Happy to hear off list if more suitable.

Many thanks


Darren.
_______________________________________________
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Thu Feb  8 18:47:04 2024
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 07:47:04 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disaster Recovery Site Options in Sydney - Thank you
In-Reply-To: <8245de15884b498f9c913fd5cc68e27c@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <aaac1963b41a4896ba0777d2942505f3@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
 <CAK47Q1mO-h2aNDuKMvv-OU-imkvDzMgyjMA0e3P8-oGGx8q+XQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <8245de15884b498f9c913fd5cc68e27c@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
Message-ID: <6e6de1a9a4714178b2155031a9d821c7@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Thanks everyone for the replies, we?re in discussions with various parties.


D.
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From spoofer-info at caida.org  Fri Feb  9 05:00:13 2024
From: spoofer-info at caida.org (CAIDA Spoofer Project)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 10:00:13 -0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Spoofer Report for AusNOG for Jan 2024
Message-ID: <1707415213.024022.29010.nullmailer@caida.org>

In response to feedback from operational security communities,
CAIDA's source address validation measurement project
(https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly
reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which
we received packets with a spoofed source address.
We are publishing these reports to network and security operations
lists in order to ensure this information reaches operational
contacts in these ASes.

This report summarises tests conducted within aus.

Inferred improvements during Jan 2024:
ASN    Name                                           Fixed-By
147020                                                2024-01-02
213382                                                2024-01-12

Further information for the inferred remediation is available at:
https://spoofer.caida.org/remedy.php

Source Address Validation issues inferred during Jan 2024:
 none inferred

Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org

From russell3901 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 15 12:09:59 2024
From: russell3901 at gmail.com (Russell Langton)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:09:59 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
Message-ID: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I've been advised that Bruce Forster passed away suddenly on Tuesday.

He was Ex-OTW,Ex-Superloop and currently Orgin.
I was lucky enough to enjoy a beer with him on GC at ausnog, but we kept
getting interrupted with all the people who wanted to say hi because he was
such an awesome human.

Bruce?s passing is a huge loss to the industry.

I will provide service details when received.

RIP.
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From cameron.murray at gmail.com  Thu Feb 15 12:19:36 2024
From: cameron.murray at gmail.com (Cameron Murray)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:19:36 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtvTJYUXcKP5DJPR9QUdY55LoZaXm_FzyoR8RyYZQzsLzpkDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Such a big personality and an all round good guy. We had the pleasure of
working with him initially at ApexN and then Superloop.

Condolences to his family.

Kind Regards

Cameron


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 11:10?AM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've been advised that Bruce Forster passed away suddenly on Tuesday.
>
> He was Ex-OTW,Ex-Superloop and currently Orgin.
> I was lucky enough to enjoy a beer with him on GC at ausnog, but we kept
> getting interrupted with all the people who wanted to say hi because he was
> such an awesome human.
>
> Bruce?s passing is a huge loss to the industry.
>
> I will provide service details when received.
>
> RIP.
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From mbw.whitlock at gmail.com  Thu Feb 15 12:21:38 2024
From: mbw.whitlock at gmail.com (Matt Whitlock)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:21:38 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
In-Reply-To: <CAFtvTJYUXcKP5DJPR9QUdY55LoZaXm_FzyoR8RyYZQzsLzpkDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFtvTJYUXcKP5DJPR9QUdY55LoZaXm_FzyoR8RyYZQzsLzpkDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHCXhZ_bt9Sk40Y+cw4=BD_=a5M3bw7AjHKrg24_YnXn7mc=yA@mail.gmail.com>

Seconded, Cameron. A great guy and a lot of fun in the office.

He will be missed.

Ta,

Matt.


On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 11:20, Cameron Murray <cameron.murray at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Such a big personality and an all round good guy. We had the pleasure of
> working with him initially at ApexN and then Superloop.
>
> Condolences to his family.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Cameron
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 11:10?AM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've been advised that Bruce Forster passed away suddenly on Tuesday.
>>
>> He was Ex-OTW,Ex-Superloop and currently Orgin.
>> I was lucky enough to enjoy a beer with him on GC at ausnog, but we kept
>> getting interrupted with all the people who wanted to say hi because he was
>> such an awesome human.
>>
>> Bruce?s passing is a huge loss to the industry.
>>
>> I will provide service details when received.
>>
>> RIP.
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From cameron.ferdinands at gmail.com  Thu Feb 15 13:54:53 2024
From: cameron.ferdinands at gmail.com (Cameron)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:54:53 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFXuDfaC8f_L4-bLo5_A2Q7rVwNedyEBx8G_FXKAq3U14mR_bw@mail.gmail.com>

Completely shattered

Bruce was loved by everyone for his personality, as well as a frequent
contributor to the Australian telecom community, volunteering his time for
anyone that would ask. You most likely had a port patched by Bruce on an IX
somewhere in Brisbane, or watched an online video with one of the caches he
helped install. He made things happen.

As a friend he was an amazing person and I can't thank him enough for all
the support he's provided me over the years.

I'll miss you Bruce



On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 11:10, Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've been advised that Bruce Forster passed away suddenly on Tuesday.
>
> He was Ex-OTW,Ex-Superloop and currently Orgin.
> I was lucky enough to enjoy a beer with him on GC at ausnog, but we kept
> getting interrupted with all the people who wanted to say hi because he was
> such an awesome human.
>
> Bruce?s passing is a huge loss to the industry.
>
> I will provide service details when received.
>
> RIP.
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From k at rl.ag  Thu Feb 15 14:23:40 2024
From: k at rl.ag (Karl Kloppenborg)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:23:40 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGq70SKopWCsxgu=kwT9k+fKG5Ltv-W5+M30mUxMVQg1EZhEyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PSAPR06MB483998BD25C4115B6569CD59AA4D2@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>

What a horrible loss, I hope anyone close to the family offers support and relays the industries sentiment.
He will be sorely missed.

--Karl.


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 15 February 2024 at 12:10 pm
To: ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Vale Bruce Forster
Hi All,

I've been advised that Bruce Forster passed away suddenly on Tuesday.

He was Ex-OTW,Ex-Superloop and currently Orgin.
I was lucky enough to enjoy a beer with him on GC at ausnog, but we kept getting interrupted with all the people who wanted to say hi because he was such an awesome human.
Bruce?s passing is a huge loss to the industry.

I will provide service details when received.

RIP.
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From gogroup.au at gmail.com  Fri Feb 16 12:57:54 2024
From: gogroup.au at gmail.com (Go Group - GEO Gurus)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 12:27:54 +1030
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
Message-ID: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>

G'Day Guys

I'm a newbie here so hope !'m ! breaking any rules posting about a LAN ?

I was checking a regional SA iinet DHCP set static IP config.& noticed that
the GW is 203.217.8.255 in Tasmania.

They are iinet customer 4 15+ years & have 9 static IPs

If I tracert 203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au ( 203.217.8.255 ) the 1st
few hops r prefix 'adl-' so IT seems that having a state prefix is
important at iiNET as far as host naming conventions go.

Customer has a photo & screen shot of the router they had setup approx. 10
years ago & GW ( again DHCP set ) from this setup is a host with the prefix
'adl-'

iinet bus. support are saying ' No Problem ' to fix & will not provide a
Gateway IP 4 SA customers, but will provide DNS server IPs

I was part of a team that managed the most popular website in the southern
hemisphere & the largest windows server / vmware network in the southern
hemisphere so I know about vmotion etc. & why we need to keep secrets but
why does iinet have a secret SA gateway !!!

Any1 else in SA who has an iinet customer & can check their routers GW IP ?

TIA

Ken G. - Go G.
GEO Guru

-- 

Enjoy the experience of software from downunder that keeps you on top.

  ..--_|\     Go Group
/   OZ  \   Suite 762
\ _.--._ /   25-27 BAROSSA VALLEY WAY
         v    Barossa Valley SA 5351

.) .)
http://gogroup.au

A Go Geo URL ( GGU ) - *http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/
<http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/>*

http://5575.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/> http://5576.5o.au
<http://trustedadvisor.it/>
http://surfside.5o.au - http:// <http://ozgardener.org/>*roseworthy.5o.au
<http://roseworthy.5o.au/>*
http://Lyndoch.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/>

Smile its free
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From k at rl.ag  Fri Feb 16 13:04:28 2024
From: k at rl.ag (Karl Kloppenborg)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 02:04:28 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
In-Reply-To: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PSAPR06MB4839DF972B640340523837D1AA4C2@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Just checking, it?s Friday yes?

--Karl.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Go Group - GEO Gurus <gogroup.au at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 16 February 2024 at 12:58 pm
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
G'Day Guys

I'm a newbie here so hope !'m ! breaking any rules posting about a LAN ?

I was checking a regional SA iinet DHCP set static IP config.& noticed that the GW is 203.217.8.255 in Tasmania.

They are iinet customer 4 15+ years & have 9 static IPs

If I tracert 203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au<http://203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au> ( 203.217.8.255 ) the 1st few hops r prefix 'adl-' so IT seems that having a state prefix is important at iiNET as far as host naming conventions go.

Customer has a photo & screen shot of the router they had setup approx. 10 years ago & GW ( again DHCP set ) from this setup is a host with the prefix 'adl-'

iinet bus. support are saying ' No Problem ' to fix & will not provide a Gateway IP 4 SA customers, but will provide DNS server IPs

I was part of a team that managed the most popular website in the southern hemisphere & the largest windows server / vmware network in the southern hemisphere so I know about vmotion etc. & why we need to keep secrets but why does iinet have a secret SA gateway !!!

Any1 else in SA who has an iinet customer & can check their routers GW IP ?

TIA

Ken G. - Go G.
GEO Guru

--

Enjoy the experience of software from downunder that keeps you on top.
  ..--_|\     Go Group
/   OZ  \   Suite 762
\ _.--._ /   25-27 BAROSSA VALLEY WAY
         v    Barossa Valley SA 5351

.) .)
http://gogroup.au<http://gogroup.au/>

A Go Geo URL ( GGU ) - http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/

http://5575.5o.au<http://trustedadvisor.it/> http://5576.5o.au<http://trustedadvisor.it/>
http://surfside.5o.au<http://surfside.5o.au/> - http://<http://ozgardener.org/>roseworthy.5o.au<http://roseworthy.5o.au/>
http://Lyndoch.5o.au<http://trustedadvisor.it/>

Smile its free
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From marktees at gmail.com  Fri Feb 16 13:18:08 2024
From: marktees at gmail.com (Mark Tees)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 12:18:08 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
In-Reply-To: <PSAPR06MB4839DF972B640340523837D1AA4C2@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <PSAPR06MB4839DF972B640340523837D1AA4C2@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAJrnVYaGe_2=8ne96ddBE70zPKDjVYY2ULSxLVE7d4k_ug+wPg@mail.gmail.com>

It?s a secret proxy ARP?d anycast?d BNG gateway.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 at 12:04, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:

> Just checking, it?s Friday yes?
>
>
>
> --Karl.
>
>
>
> *From: *AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Go Group -
> GEO Gurus <gogroup.au at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 16 February 2024 at 12:58 pm
> *To: *ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject: *[AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
> 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
>
> G'Day Guys
>
>
>
> I'm a newbie here so hope !'m ! breaking any rules posting about a LAN ?
>
>
>
> I was checking a regional SA iinet DHCP set static IP config.& noticed
> that the GW is 203.217.8.255 in Tasmania.
>
>
>
> They are iinet customer 4 15+ years & have 9 static IPs
>
>
>
> If I tracert 203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au ( 203.217.8.255 ) the 1st
> few hops r prefix 'adl-' so IT seems that having a state prefix is
> important at iiNET as far as host naming conventions go.
>
>
>
> Customer has a photo & screen shot of the router they had setup approx. 10
> years ago & GW ( again DHCP set ) from this setup is a host with the prefix
> 'adl-'
>
>
>
> iinet bus. support are saying ' No Problem ' to fix & will not provide a
> Gateway IP 4 SA customers, but will provide DNS server IPs
>
>
>
> I was part of a team that managed the most popular website in the southern
> hemisphere & the largest windows server / vmware network in the southern
> hemisphere so I know about vmotion etc. & why we need to keep secrets but
> why does iinet have a secret SA gateway !!!
>
>
>
> Any1 else in SA who has an iinet customer & can check their routers GW IP ?
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Ken G. - Go G.
>
> GEO Guru
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Enjoy the experience of software from downunder that keeps you on top.
>
>   ..--_|\     Go Group
> /   OZ  \   Suite 762
>
> \ _.--._ /   25-27 BAROSSA VALLEY WAY
>
>          v    Barossa Valley SA 5351
>
>
> .) .)
> http://gogroup.au
>
>
>
> A Go Geo URL ( GGU ) - *http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/
> <http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/>*
>
>
>
> http://5575.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/> http://5576.5o.au
> <http://trustedadvisor.it/>
>
> http://surfside.5o.au - http:// <http://ozgardener.org/>*roseworthy.5o.au
> <http://roseworthy.5o.au/>*
>
> http://Lyndoch.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/>
>
>
> Smile its free
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From rendrag at rendrag.net  Fri Feb 16 13:41:58 2024
From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:41:58 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
In-Reply-To: <CAJrnVYaGe_2=8ne96ddBE70zPKDjVYY2ULSxLVE7d4k_ug+wPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <PSAPR06MB4839DF972B640340523837D1AA4C2@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAJrnVYaGe_2=8ne96ddBE70zPKDjVYY2ULSxLVE7d4k_ug+wPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPrfDLUMX9brSJr12SMhYumchm8qwAmRdtqO4iRTyN7anT6vng@mail.gmail.com>

Wait, why is iiNet sending this guy's traffic via the American Republican
Party and the British National Guard??

On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 at 13:18, Mark Tees <marktees at gmail.com> wrote:

> It?s a secret proxy ARP?d anycast?d BNG gateway.
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 at 12:04, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>
>> Just checking, it?s Friday yes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --Karl.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Go Group -
>> GEO Gurus <gogroup.au at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, 16 February 2024 at 12:58 pm
>> *To: *ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> *Subject: *[AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
>> 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
>>
>> G'Day Guys
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a newbie here so hope !'m ! breaking any rules posting about a LAN ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was checking a regional SA iinet DHCP set static IP config.& noticed
>> that the GW is 203.217.8.255 in Tasmania.
>>
>>
>>
>> They are iinet customer 4 15+ years & have 9 static IPs
>>
>>
>>
>> If I tracert 203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au ( 203.217.8.255 ) the 1st
>> few hops r prefix 'adl-' so IT seems that having a state prefix is
>> important at iiNET as far as host naming conventions go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Customer has a photo & screen shot of the router they had setup approx.
>> 10 years ago & GW ( again DHCP set ) from this setup is a host with the
>> prefix 'adl-'
>>
>>
>>
>> iinet bus. support are saying ' No Problem ' to fix & will not provide a
>> Gateway IP 4 SA customers, but will provide DNS server IPs
>>
>>
>>
>> I was part of a team that managed the most popular website in the
>> southern hemisphere & the largest windows server / vmware network in the
>> southern hemisphere so I know about vmotion etc. & why we need to keep
>> secrets but why does iinet have a secret SA gateway !!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Any1 else in SA who has an iinet customer & can check their routers GW IP
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken G. - Go G.
>>
>> GEO Guru
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy the experience of software from downunder that keeps you on top.
>>
>>   ..--_|\     Go Group
>> /   OZ  \   Suite 762
>>
>> \ _.--._ /   25-27 BAROSSA VALLEY WAY
>>
>>          v    Barossa Valley SA 5351
>>
>>
>> .) .)
>> http://gogroup.au
>>
>>
>>
>> A Go Geo URL ( GGU ) - *http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/
>> <http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/>*
>>
>>
>>
>> http://5575.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/> http://5576.5o.au
>> <http://trustedadvisor.it/>
>>
>> http://surfside.5o.au - http:// <http://ozgardener.org/>*roseworthy.5o.au
>> <http://roseworthy.5o.au/>*
>>
>> http://Lyndoch.5o.au <http://trustedadvisor.it/>
>>
>>
>> Smile its free
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
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 We ran to the sounds of thunder.
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From markzzzsmith at gmail.com  Fri Feb 16 19:46:44 2024
From: markzzzsmith at gmail.com (Mark Smith)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 19:46:44 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
In-Reply-To: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO42Z2zqdmsmXwMW-B=kyjxNFrEKtDG8FdJC2E3HpRTVGNmmeQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's likely that their DNS PTR records are out of date for their network.
Fairly common issue.


On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 at 12:58, Go Group - GEO Gurus <gogroup.au at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> G'Day Guys
>
> I'm a newbie here so hope !'m ! breaking any rules posting about a LAN ?
>
> I was checking a regional SA iinet DHCP set static IP config.& noticed
that the GW is 203.217.8.255 in Tasmania.
>
> They are iinet customer 4 15+ years & have 9 static IPs
>
> If I tracert 203-217-8-bcast.perm.iinet.net.au ( 203.217.8.255 ) the 1st
few hops r prefix 'adl-' so IT seems that having a state prefix is
important at iiNET as far as host naming conventions go.
>
> Customer has a photo & screen shot of the router they had setup approx.
10 years ago & GW ( again DHCP set ) from this setup is a host with the
prefix 'adl-'
>
> iinet bus. support are saying ' No Problem ' to fix & will not provide a
Gateway IP 4 SA customers, but will provide DNS server IPs
>
> I was part of a team that managed the most popular website in the
southern hemisphere & the largest windows server / vmware network in the
southern hemisphere so I know about vmotion etc. & why we need to keep
secrets but why does iinet have a secret SA gateway !!!
>
> Any1 else in SA who has an iinet customer & can check their routers GW IP
?
>
> TIA
>
> Ken G. - Go G.
> GEO Guru
>
> --
>
> Enjoy the experience of software from downunder that keeps you on top.
>
>   ..--_|\     Go Group
> /   OZ  \   Suite 762
> \ _.--._ /   25-27 BAROSSA VALLEY WAY
>          v    Barossa Valley SA 5351
>
> .) .)
> http://gogroup.au
>
> A Go Geo URL ( GGU ) - http://10fosst.5351.5o.au/
>
> http://5575.5o.au http://5576.5o.au
> http://surfside.5o.au - http://roseworthy.5o.au
> http://Lyndoch.5o.au
>
> Smile its free
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From shaun at ewing.au  Fri Feb 16 20:39:56 2024
From: shaun at ewing.au (Shaun Ewing)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:39:56 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] iinet secret SA gateway - reg. cust. with iinet GW
 203.217.8.255 is in Tas ?
In-Reply-To: <CAO42Z2zqdmsmXwMW-B=kyjxNFrEKtDG8FdJC2E3HpRTVGNmmeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByB+vBEnvkCcN=JoEaJdx8VAXc3mhMjEZxZw7OuKLNt0h8oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO42Z2zqdmsmXwMW-B=kyjxNFrEKtDG8FdJC2E3HpRTVGNmmeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D5FC184C-013E-4BE9-91FE-A6248CD69633@ewing.au>

I had a /29 in that range back in 2002 ? my custom PTRs are still in place for that service which was cancelled over 20 years ago. It wouldn?t surprise me at all.

On 16/2/2024, 7:47?pm, "AusNOG on behalf of Mark Smith" <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of markzzzsmith at gmail.com<mailto:markzzzsmith at gmail.com>> wrote:

It's likely that their DNS PTR records are out of date for their network. Fairly common issue.

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From davidphe at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 15:50:25 2024
From: davidphe at gmail.com (David Phelan)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:50:25 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] CFP - NZNOG - 11-12 April 2024
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