From laurent.cheval at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 08:26:29 2023
From: laurent.cheval at gmail.com (Laurent)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 09:26:29 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Vocus BGP communities for Akamai
Message-ID: <CADtePwhhtDU9GdOwc7Nscg3O818o38DH1hcwSQq-eesnfmACoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

I would like to know if Vocus has some (undocummented but working) BGP
communities to preprend/set no-export to Akamai ?

Thank you very much.

Regards
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From matthew at kobayashi.au  Fri Jun  2 09:19:15 2023
From: matthew at kobayashi.au (Matthew Kobayashi)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 09:19:15 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vocus BGP communities for Akamai
In-Reply-To: <CADtePwhhtDU9GdOwc7Nscg3O818o38DH1hcwSQq-eesnfmACoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADtePwhhtDU9GdOwc7Nscg3O818o38DH1hcwSQq-eesnfmACoQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHqzWdKB99ieJGSFQWxBJ6oeLeHTQeKTw0kbATxxtfnHtS+kVw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Laurent,

Have you tried any of these?
https://support.vocus.com.au/s/article/What-BGP-Communities-does-Vocus-support


On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 08:27, Laurent <laurent.cheval at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I would like to know if Vocus has some (undocummented but working) BGP
> communities to preprend/set no-export to Akamai ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From tim at jacksons.net.au  Wed Jun  7 12:06:06 2023
From: tim at jacksons.net.au (Tim Jackson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 12:06:06 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra. *tableflip*
In-Reply-To: <38F15BCD-D21C-4C33-8456-130DB98DF344@bradleyamm.com>
References: <SY4P282MB3517681F8F29D9A7A989A34395489@SY4P282MB3517.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <38F15BCD-D21C-4C33-8456-130DB98DF344@bradleyamm.com>
Message-ID: <CAK47Q1kQO-fHF7zhW7d0p6AP_JGsi6oO+_KZrh2fePJ8FyWKrA@mail.gmail.com>

Ever since we moved our 1400 odd services across to
https://www.mobilenetwork.com.au/ I have since never had to deal with
Telstra directly :)



Tim

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:02?PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:

> I wanted to change to email bill so I did. They cancelled my accounts and
> moved to me to a new account number and lost all the names of 100odd
> services so now our accounts team won?t know how to do internal charges as
> the bill doesn?t have names on it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 31 May 2023, at 6:16 pm, Matthew Mace <matthew at htsol.com.au> wrote:
>
> ?
> Absolutely pathetic. Took me 7 months to be able to stop a paper bill and
> be able to pay online.
>
> Happy to take my money, happy to give me an account and services but won?t
> verify me so I could login to my account.
>
> Instead send me a 190-page long bill each month in the mail. Which even
> though I didn?t want it was being charged a paper bill charge for as well!!
>
> Slightly happier that it?s not just me. ????
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of
> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2023 4:46:41 PM
> *To:* Ryan Spillane | 360 Consulting <ryan.spillane at 360consulting.com.au>;
> Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra. *tableflip*
>
> Argh I just had a massive fight with them too and want to port away! I
> couldn?t get into the Telstra Business portal for a similar reason, I
> needed my TB ID but they had no idea what that was, all I wanted to do was
> pay my bill and they couldn?t work it out, they only just started forcing
> you to login to pay too?.
>
> Took me just over 4 weeks and countless calls/chats/cases to sort it. The
> worst part is, they tell you to go to the store, but if you have an account
> manager on your business services, the store can?t help you!! You go to
> your account manager and then they just send you to support! Argh!
>
> Business support has gone down hill and their insane amount of new portals
> they want you to use is just ridiculous! I also have my cranky pants on lol
> [image: Sent from Front]
>
> On May 31, 2023 at 4:28 PM GMT+10 ryan.spillane at 360consulting.com.au
> wrote:
>
> If you were a primary contact on the account then I was able to do it over
> the phone with them, (was a couple of months ago, but they saw my mobile
> was listed in another area) sent me the code, I verified and they updated
> my details
>
> Ryan Spillane | CEO
> 360 Consulting
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 4:15 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra. *tableflip*
>
> I love that their Business security involves a letter head what is it
> 1974.  That will fool the fraudster they never will be able to duplicate a
> letterhead.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 31/5/2023 4:08 pm, Rob Thomas wrote:
> > Trying to log into our Telstra account and we are greeted with this
> > lovely message:
> >
> > ---
> > Two-step verification
> > To protect the security of your account, we need to complete an
> > additional authentication step. We refer to this as a two-step
> > verification.
> >
> > As we don?t have any contact details listed on your account, we?re
> > unable to complete the two-step verification. This means you?ll need
> > to visit a Telstra store with a valid ID. You can find our nearest
> > store here.
> >
> > Please remember to bring in a valid form of ID. If you?re a small
> > business customer, please bring in a letter/document with your
> > business? letterhead on it.
> > ---
> >
> > I've given Telstra my ID more times than I can possibly count, and
> > this is it. I'm done. I can't even download my latest bill to pay them.
> >
> > So, I guess I'm going to be porting 200 odd mobiles away from them.
> > They have succeeded in beating entropy, where it was easier to NOT
> > change than it was to change.  Well done Telstra, I guess. Thank you
> > for finally convincing me that your incompetence was no longer worth
> > tolerating.
> >
> > Yes, I do have my cranky pants on, how did you tell?
> >
> > --Rob
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ausnog.net_
> > mailman_listinfo_ausnog&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp
> > gnVfiiMM&r=eIm7NC6EadCFBSSLzpa1y526tV9iNwEjPKWheHlkuG_Du5z2ghn40h-wbfs
> > oYkT_&m=C-p3iiFvN6Q2_phF51BDWN5zFY-QnvbSr5mJ2mmFrXg&s=ivBbayWiPzgDcRia
> > Kpg6NFNNKhZ410RUhI7aQWzVqMc&e=
>
> --
> ** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL
>
> /* Matt Perkins
>          Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>          Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
>          ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>
> */
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>
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From matt at spectrum.com.au  Wed Jun  7 20:21:55 2023
From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 20:21:55 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Symbio Security contact.
Message-ID: <7a2a6c1b-4433-ea5d-1e99-78b939c9382f@spectrum.com.au>

Would someone from Symbio network security contact me off list.

Thanks

Matt

-- 
** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL

/* Matt Perkins
         Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
         Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
         ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000

*/


From rendrag at rendrag.net  Wed Jun  7 22:12:53 2023
From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 22:12:53 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Symbio Security contact.
In-Reply-To: <7a2a6c1b-4433-ea5d-1e99-78b939c9382f@spectrum.com.au>
References: <7a2a6c1b-4433-ea5d-1e99-78b939c9382f@spectrum.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAPrfDLW4hsEDFpt-LWmbK7nRh-mBPziMJYhppsN2XDk-8KiSMw@mail.gmail.com>

They're far too busy signing up new ATO and Amazon scammers :(

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 20:22, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> Would someone from Symbio network security contact me off list.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
> --
> ** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL
>
> /* Matt Perkins
>          Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>          Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
>          ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>
> */
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>


-- 

Damien Gardner Jnr
VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
--
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
 We ran to the sounds of thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Wed Jun  7 23:35:01 2023
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 21:35:01 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Symbio Security contact.
In-Reply-To: <CAPrfDLW4hsEDFpt-LWmbK7nRh-mBPziMJYhppsN2XDk-8KiSMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPrfDLW4hsEDFpt-LWmbK7nRh-mBPziMJYhppsN2XDk-8KiSMw@mail.gmail.com>
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From matt at spectrum.com.au  Thu Jun  8 08:46:00 2023
From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 08:46:00 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Symbio Security contact.
In-Reply-To: <2FC8204B-9A6F-4EF9-840D-6BB93148E58B@bradleyamm.com>
References: <CAPrfDLW4hsEDFpt-LWmbK7nRh-mBPziMJYhppsN2XDk-8KiSMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <2FC8204B-9A6F-4EF9-840D-6BB93148E58B@bradleyamm.com>
Message-ID: <ae1476f8-4f75-4254-5992-66b696da78b3@spectrum.com.au>

Thanks all I have list of contacts to try today.

Matt


On 7/6/2023 11:35 pm, Bradley Amm wrote:
> Don?t forget NBN scammers.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 7 Jun 2023, at 8:13 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> They're far too busy signing up new ATO and Amazon scammers :(
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 20:22, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>     Would someone from Symbio network security contact me off list.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Matt
>>
>>     -- 
>>     ** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL
>>
>>     /* Matt Perkins
>>     ? ? ? ? ?Direct 02 8916 8101? ? ?Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>>     ? ? ? ? ?Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
>>     ? ? ? ? ?ABN 66 090 112 913? ? ? Level 6, 350 George Street
>>     Sydney 2000
>>
>>     */
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     AusNOG mailing list
>>     AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Damien Gardner Jnr
>> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
>> rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/_
>> _--
>> We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
>> ?We ran to the sounds of thunder.
>> We danced among the lightning bolts,
>> ?and tore the world asunder
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

-- 
** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL

/* Matt Perkins
         Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
         Office 1300 133 299matt at spectrum.com.au
         ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000

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From spoofer-info at caida.org  Fri Jun  9 03:00:13 2023
From: spoofer-info at caida.org (CAIDA Spoofer Project)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 10:00:13 -0700
Subject: [AusNOG] Spoofer Report for AusNOG for May 2023
Message-ID: <1686243613.154306.16674.nullmailer@caida.org>

In response to feedback from operational security communities,
CAIDA's source address validation measurement project
(https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly
reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which
we received packets with a spoofed source address.
We are publishing these reports to network and security operations
lists in order to ensure this information reaches operational
contacts in these ASes.

This report summarises tests conducted within aus.

Inferred improvements during May 2023:
 none inferred

Source Address Validation issues inferred during May 2023:
ASN    Name                           First-Spoofed Last-Spoofed
4826   VOCUS-BACKBONE                    2018-03-07   2023-05-30
10214  PENTANET                          2023-05-30   2023-05-30

Further information for these tests where we received spoofed
packets is available at:
https://spoofer.caida.org/recent_tests.php?country_include=aus&no_block=1

Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org

From shane at 2000cn.com.au  Fri Jun  9 14:23:36 2023
From: shane at 2000cn.com.au (Shane Chrisp)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 12:23:36 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Looking for a HP DL380 G4 in Perth
In-Reply-To: <SYBP282MB05384010EEFF497A603EFFEDAFA39@SYBP282MB0538.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <PSAPR06MB4839CA44438D8EAD82BB6DE7AAA29@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <MEYP282MB3163D6A4C6615156E414DFEFADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB31638D5834153CE2603BCAEDADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <SYBP282MB05384010EEFF497A603EFFEDAFA39@SYBP282MB0538.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <1719873c-efdf-303c-a8fc-b829dff146a9@2000cn.com.au>

Hi All,

Asking for a friend.

He has a customer with an old HP DL380 G4 which has died that was 
apparently running a critical application. Typical!

Does anyone happen to have one sitting around they would like to get rid 
of in Perth?

Regards

Shane


From mark at nabc.com.au  Fri Jun  9 14:27:59 2023
From: mark at nabc.com.au (Mark Stewart)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 04:27:59 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] DMARC Violation Looking for a HP DL380 G4 in Perth
In-Reply-To: <1719873c-efdf-303c-a8fc-b829dff146a9@2000cn.com.au>
References: <PSAPR06MB4839CA44438D8EAD82BB6DE7AAA29@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <MEYP282MB3163D6A4C6615156E414DFEFADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB31638D5834153CE2603BCAEDADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <SYBP282MB05384010EEFF497A603EFFEDAFA39@SYBP282MB0538.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <1719873c-efdf-303c-a8fc-b829dff146a9@2000cn.com.au>
 <578e7725-2795-4717-8941-4645be4de95d.d2ab54af-1f79-495a-8a6b-c5220e2e1e0f.56c84c96-5062-406f-a528-eefc27124375@emailsignatures365.codetwo.com>
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From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 15:49:58 2023
From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:49:58 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Looking for a HP DL380 G4 in Perth
In-Reply-To: <1719873c-efdf-303c-a8fc-b829dff146a9@2000cn.com.au>
References: <PSAPR06MB4839CA44438D8EAD82BB6DE7AAA29@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <MEYP282MB3163D6A4C6615156E414DFEFADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <MEYP282MB31638D5834153CE2603BCAEDADA29@MEYP282MB3163.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <SYBP282MB05384010EEFF497A603EFFEDAFA39@SYBP282MB0538.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <1719873c-efdf-303c-a8fc-b829dff146a9@2000cn.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAKZcER7FGaLfWmm=RE-fGzxGMOOwp0N9v-1DBFng6-wp_sPjhg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Worst case i have a DL320 Gen8 spare

It takes the same DDR3 Ram as most HP Servers of that age, Similar CPU Specs
It has the HP Raid controller (not the MegaAIDS one)

On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 12:24?PM Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Asking for a friend.
>
> He has a customer with an old HP DL380 G4 which has died that was
> apparently running a critical application. Typical!
>
> Does anyone happen to have one sitting around they would like to get rid
> of in Perth?
>
> Regards
>
> Shane
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Sat Jun 10 14:51:54 2023
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 04:51:54 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Streamotion Contect
Message-ID: <8D541C41-2182-49BE-93A3-5FAE48E88F4F@iperium.com.au>

Hi Everyone,

If there is anyone from Streamotion, Binge, KAYO on list or if anyone has a contact for them that could make contact with me, that would be appreciated/

It appears they have added our ASN to a blacklist even though we specifically ban VPN host customers from our network and are not aware of any VPN?s operating.

Broadband customers are not happy today and having a world of pain finding the right contact to help us resolve the issue.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 1300 592 330  |  m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au

Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000<x-apple-data-detectors://4>

Your Connectivity Team



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From glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au  Sat Jun 10 19:23:45 2023
From: glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au (Greg Lipschitz)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 09:23:45 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Streamotion Contect
In-Reply-To: <8D541C41-2182-49BE-93A3-5FAE48E88F4F@iperium.com.au>
References: <8D541C41-2182-49BE-93A3-5FAE48E88F4F@iperium.com.au>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB259769EA07917649F8DB790C8256A@MEYP282MB2597.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Nathan

Try....

casops.casops at foxtel.com.au or geoip.issues at foxtel.com.au

Cheers
Greg

Greg Lipschitz | Founder & CEO | Summit Internet
glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au
summitinternet.com.au
1300 049 749
Unit 2, 31-39 Norcal Road, Nunawading VIC 3131
Summit Internet
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 2:51:54 PM
To: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Streamotion Contect

Hi Everyone,

If there is anyone from Streamotion, Binge, KAYO on list or if anyone has a contact for them that could make contact with me, that would be appreciated/

It appears they have added our ASN to a blacklist even though we specifically ban VPN host customers from our network and are not aware of any VPN?s operating.

Broadband customers are not happy today and having a world of pain finding the right contact to help us resolve the issue.


Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 1300 592 330  |  m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au

Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

Your Connectivity Team




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From elly at apnic.net  Mon Jun 12 18:28:43 2023
From: elly at apnic.net (Elly Tawhai)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:28:43 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Community consultation on increasing availability of
 critical APNIC services
Message-ID: <SYBP282MB2946107C59B6C0EB864B2F54C254A@SYBP282MB2946.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

________________________________________________________________________



Community consultation on increasing availability of critical APNIC

services

________________________________________________________________________



Hi AusNOG Community,



APNIC is always looking to maintain the highest possible level of

availability of its online services to Members and the community.



Last year, APNIC began assessing the technical and process improvements

required to increase availability of its critical services to a high

level, beyond 99.99%.  Significant financial and resource investments in

people and infrastructure would need to be made to achieve this.



The opinions of APNIC Members and the community on this work are

essential. Your input will help APNIC determine the scope, feasibility

and appetite for further investments in critical service availability.



As part of the consultation process, APNIC has developed a short online

consultation form you can access below.





Provide your feedback

---------------------



    https://www.research.net/r/BLSXVBL



APNIC appreciates any feedback you can provide. We also encourage you

discuss this with colleagues in your organization to capture their

thoughts (or have them complete this form as well). The form will remain

open for feedback until Wednesday, 21 June at 17:30 (UTC +10).



In addition, APNIC is conducting interviews with Members and other

stakeholders as part of the process, with the results of the community

consultation to be shared publicly in the coming months.



Please participate if you can ? we value your thoughts!



________________________________________________________________________



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Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC)   Tel: +61 7 3858 3100

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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Tue Jun 13 14:15:48 2023
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:15:48 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Data Cabling,
	Fibre and Copper - Warehouse Setting - tullamarine
Message-ID: <CAGNmLCeGNBno5kA6+Ed-1Ut82oKJQSHc6K4s7+MW_bkHEW-yXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Boys and Girls

Does anyone have any contacts that could do a medium size cabling job?

We have just obtained a massive warehouse in Tullamarine
The office area is getting gutted shortly. They are doing floor plans now
and we need someone who can do the data

*Requirements*
CAT6 to desks (unsure how many
Fibre to area up the back of the warehouse over 100meters unsure of
distance exactly
Fibre runs to comms cabinets for POE cameras and wireless access points

Any recommendations please reply back off list
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From chris.p.barnes at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 11:50:56 2023
From: chris.p.barnes at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:50:56 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Trying to source MTP cables - Sydney
Message-ID: <CACTt9vm6Qqw7e9KTycSpBmSVrma+Zf6ucv1fdQv04aqumUaK=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm chasing a couple of MTP cables, none of my usual suppliers have stock
so I thought I'd see if anyone here knows where they might be in stock.

Specifically looking for:
2 x 10meter  Multimode OM4 Micro Core 12F LSZH MTP(f) - MTP(f) Elite -
Polarity B

-- 
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
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From david at hughes.id  Mon Jun 19 16:28:31 2023
From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:28:31 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2023 CFP closing soon
Message-ID: <9591E68B-4F66-4084-A08B-F0F91975474A@hughes.id>

Hey all

Just a reminder that the Call For Presentations for this year's AusNOG conference closes next week.  If you're thinking about submitting a presentation proposal, follow the link below and share your experience or knowledge with your peers!   See you all on the Gold Coast in September.


	https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2023/cfp


Thanks

David
...

From david at hughes.id  Tue Jun 20 07:48:56 2023
From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 07:48:56 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2023 Accommodation booking
Message-ID: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>

Good morning everyone,

We've seen lots of registrations purchased for the conference but not a great deal of bookings at the hotel.  While we have a reserved block of rooms at a discounted rate, that block reduces in size at various times leading up to the event so we don't end up being charged for rooms you guys aren't using.  One of those dates has just passed and 35% of remaining rooms has been handed back.  Another date is approaching soon too.

If you have purchased your registration and intend on staying at the conference hotel (and why wouldn't you for the convenience and price! )  then I encourage you to book your rooms in the coming days.


Thanks

David
...

From michael at hobl.com.au  Tue Jun 20 08:13:41 2023
From: michael at hobl.com.au (Michael Hobl)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:13:41 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2023 Accommodation booking
In-Reply-To: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>
References: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>
Message-ID: <CAPpU=XY6CkG+L=N7Ox8iJVyesA_rPX0EAJn7myPNJhkhHKQrCg@mail.gmail.com>

I know multiple people, myself included, who are deliberately choosing to
stay elsewhere due to the impracticality of the venue with relevance to the
usual evening social activities that intertwine the conference itself each
year.

I also know of delegates who are, like many do, leveraging the conference
as an opportunity to take the wife/kids somewhere new-- they're not going
to win any brownie points putting them in front of the dolphins for a week
straight.

The resort being used as overflow accomodation for hospital care also
doesn't help matters.


- Michael


On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:49?AM <david at hughes.id> wrote:

> Good morning everyone,
>
> We've seen lots of registrations purchased for the conference but not a
> great deal of bookings at the hotel.  While we have a reserved block of
> rooms at a discounted rate, that block reduces in size at various times
> leading up to the event so we don't end up being charged for rooms you guys
> aren't using.  One of those dates has just passed and 35% of remaining
> rooms has been handed back.  Another date is approaching soon too.
>
> If you have purchased your registration and intend on staying at the
> conference hotel (and why wouldn't you for the convenience and price! )
> then I encourage you to book your rooms in the coming days.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> ...
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From bevan at slattery.net.au  Tue Jun 20 09:23:17 2023
From: bevan at slattery.net.au (Bevan Slattery)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:23:17 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2023 Accommodation booking
In-Reply-To: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>
References: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>
Message-ID: <a2056750-435b-46b0-806b-1e12dcc2d526@Spark>

Thanks David.

Initially when I saw AUSNOG was in Queensland I was super-pumped.??Then I saw it was at Seaworld Nara and I had flashes of Darryl Summers and Hey Hey It?s Saturday.??I dare say a few locals may have felt the same :)


The SODA team and a few of our customers are staying at Sheraton Mirage down the road and we are putting on the ?SODA Express? Shuttle that will be running all day to take??people between the Sheraton and Seaworld.??We have got the resort to hold 30 additional rooms on a special rate for those interested in staying there.??I will shoot through a link with the promo code later today for people that are interested.

Bevan
On 20 Jun 2023 at 7:49 AM +1000, david at hughes.id, wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
>
> We've seen lots of registrations purchased for the conference but not a great deal of bookings at the hotel. While we have a reserved block of rooms at a discounted rate, that block reduces in size at various times leading up to the event so we don't end up being charged for rooms you guys aren't using. One of those dates has just passed and 35% of remaining rooms has been handed back. Another date is approaching soon too.
>
> If you have purchased your registration and intend on staying at the conference hotel (and why wouldn't you for the convenience and price! ) then I encourage you to book your rooms in the coming days.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> ...
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From david at hughes.id  Tue Jun 20 12:55:27 2023
From: david at hughes.id (David Hughes)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:55:27 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2023 Accommodation booking
In-Reply-To: <CAPpU=XY6CkG+L=N7Ox8iJVyesA_rPX0EAJn7myPNJhkhHKQrCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0DC556CE-2E78-4853-9472-9E5FE982C660@hughes.id>
 <CAPpU=XY6CkG+L=N7Ox8iJVyesA_rPX0EAJn7myPNJhkhHKQrCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C38F3585-7634-49F0-A08C-B583DB32DC00@hughes.id>


Hi Michael,

The hotel with which we organised the discount rate was chosen based on the convenience and practicality with respect to the conference.  If people wish to leave the events we provide and go out drinking afterwards then the Uber app is their friend.  But, being the Gold Coast, there's a multitude of accommodation options so I'm sure there's something that fits your requirements.


Thanks

David
...



> On 20 Jun 2023, at 8:13 am, Michael Hobl <michael at hobl.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I know multiple people, myself included, who are deliberately choosing to stay elsewhere due to the impracticality of the venue with relevance to the usual evening social activities that intertwine the conference itself each year.
> 
> I also know of delegates who are, like many do, leveraging the conference as an opportunity to take the wife/kids somewhere new-- they're not going to win any brownie points putting them in front of the dolphins for a week straight.
> 
> The resort being used as overflow accomodation for hospital care also doesn't help matters.
> 
> 
> - Michael
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:49?AM <david at hughes.id <mailto:david at hughes.id>> wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
> 
> We've seen lots of registrations purchased for the conference but not a great deal of bookings at the hotel.  While we have a reserved block of rooms at a discounted rate, that block reduces in size at various times leading up to the event so we don't end up being charged for rooms you guys aren't using.  One of those dates has just passed and 35% of remaining rooms has been handed back.  Another date is approaching soon too.
> 
> If you have purchased your registration and intend on staying at the conference hotel (and why wouldn't you for the convenience and price! )  then I encourage you to book your rooms in the coming days.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> ...
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog <https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog>

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From ssarkis at unitedip.net.au  Thu Jun 22 09:42:41 2023
From: ssarkis at unitedip.net.au (Sam Sarkis-UIP)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 23:42:41 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] remote hands in Canberra
Message-ID: <0c809a7d493644cd875619b658abf933@unitedip.net.au>


Hey All,

Is there anyone available to assist with a customer relocation 23th (tomorrow) in hume ACT

Will probably be 4-6 hours of work.  Relocate server, couple of access points, switch and run a series of test.

Please contact me off-list via email


Thanks

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From shane at 2000cn.com.au  Thu Jun 22 15:21:17 2023
From: shane at 2000cn.com.au (Shane Chrisp)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 13:21:17 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] IT Recycling Perth
Message-ID: <9295414f-7966-0716-7855-3475850180dd@2000cn.com.au>

Hi All,

I have a pile of really old servers to get rid of and I am wondering if 
anyone knows of a recycler in Perth that will come and collect them from us?

-- 
Regards

Shane Chrisp
2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
Mb 0412 409 856
Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
Web http://www.2000cn.com.au


From brad at bradleyamm.com  Thu Jun 22 19:39:54 2023
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 17:39:54 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] IT Recycling Perth
In-Reply-To: <9295414f-7966-0716-7855-3475850180dd@2000cn.com.au>
References: <9295414f-7966-0716-7855-3475850180dd@2000cn.com.au>
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From andrew.mathieson-blakely at bmcg.net.au  Thu Jun 22 19:42:01 2023
From: andrew.mathieson-blakely at bmcg.net.au (Andrew M. Mathieson-Blakely)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 09:42:01 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] IT Recycling Perth
In-Reply-To: <6229B2C4-1957-475B-9C48-3629B35E8918@bradleyamm.com>
References: <9295414f-7966-0716-7855-3475850180dd@2000cn.com.au>,
 <6229B2C4-1957-475B-9C48-3629B35E8918@bradleyamm.com>
Message-ID: <A75FE6F5-5F27-446B-A053-5B04A38817C1@bmcg.net.au>

Hey Bradley

What are these servers.  Might be open to taking them off your hands depending on the age of them.

Kind Regards

Andrew Mathieson-Blakely
Chief Executive Officer
Business Momentum Consultancy Group

13-15 John Street ROSEWOOD QLD 4340
Phone:  1300 292 491
Fax:       07 3462 2323
Mobile:  0449 561 461
Web:    http://www.bmcg.net.au
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On 22 Jun 2023, at 7:40 pm, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:

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I get them to do ours all the time

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On 22 Jun 2023, at 1:21 pm, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:

?Hi All,

I have a pile of really old servers to get rid of and I am wondering if anyone knows of a recycler in Perth that will come and collect them from us?

--
Regards

Shane Chrisp
2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
Mb 0412 409 856
Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
Web http://www.2000cn.com.au

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From terry.sweetser at apnic.net  Sat Jun 24 08:44:22 2023
From: terry.sweetser at apnic.net (Terry Sweetser)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:44:22 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] RPKI Events Canberra and Sydney in July.
Message-ID: <ME3P282MB34276B1CB6B7CC539F6C18D08C23A@ME3P282MB3427.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Furthering our work here at APNIC on Routing Security:

Register for our upcoming RPKI/ROV Tutorial Australia (Canberra and Sydney) 18 July - 20 July 2023.
APNIC Academy Training in Partnership with IAA

This tutorial will look at current route filtering tools/techniques, how RPKI is just a piece in the puzzle, and what we should do to secure the internet routing.

Find out more and register via APNIC Academy
RPKI/ROV Tutorial  (Canberra) - https://academy.apnic.net/en/events?id=a0B2e000000dkIoEAI
RPKI/ROV Tutorial  (Sydney). - https://academy.apnic.net/en/events?id=a0B2e000000dkKBEAY

Hoping to see many of you at the tutorial and the social event.

________________________________
Terry Sweetser
Training Delivery Manager
South Asia and Oceania
e: terry.sweetser at apnic.net<mailto:terry.sweetser at apnic.net>
p: +61 7 3858 3100
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From bevan at slattery.net.au  Tue Jun 27 16:39:46 2023
From: bevan at slattery.net.au (Bevan Slattery)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 06:39:46 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Fwd: AUSNOG Sheraton Code
In-Reply-To: <SYBP282MB421546A1C09628D31EFA5759FF27A@SYBP282MB4215.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SYBP282MB421546A1C09628D31EFA5759FF27A@SYBP282MB4215.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <SYBP282MB4215B91E1CBDE93F16AFAF03FF27A@SYBP282MB4215.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>


________________________________


Hi all,

As promised follow the link for the Sheraton SODA rate for Ausnog.

Let Katie know if there are any dramas.

Book your group rate for Soda Company <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marriott.com%2Fevents%2Fstart.mi%3Fid%3D1687486450913%26key%3DGRP&data=05%7C01%7Cbevan%40soda.co%7Cce7b41dd213349fa1b9208db76d8014a%7C959bf8bfff58453dae6b856bfee49dcc%7C0%7C0%7C638234442322861254%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D5AW4hX3BOyT6ZpywxmeruueKeEbwBHXjfB3wf3IKe4%3D&reserved=0>
Event Summary:
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Last Day to Book:
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  *   Sheraton Grand Mirage Resort, Gold Coast for 300 AUD per night
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From david at hughes.id  Tue Jun 27 16:57:23 2023
From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 16:57:23 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Vocus Pre-AusNOG Event
Message-ID: <2F5B0DD0-6FFC-4B29-A783-3C8F1D86F8FE@hughes.id>

Hi everyone

With AusNOG 2023 approaching quickly, the team at Vocus have asked me to pass on the details of their traditional Pre-AusNOG social event.  Details (and the RSVP link) can be found on the AusNOG web site at the link below.

	https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2023/vocus-pre-event


Thanks

David
...

From narellec at gmail.com  Tue Jun 27 18:10:01 2023
From: narellec at gmail.com (Narelle Clark)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:10:01 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] RPKI Events Canberra and Sydney in July.
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB34276B1CB6B7CC539F6C18D08C23A@ME3P282MB3427.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3P282MB34276B1CB6B7CC539F6C18D08C23A@ME3P282MB3427.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CACRMD1F0e-kAsJrd-248adcZxiZR-OcZ14sD1Gr2K0QxTbiDGw@mail.gmail.com>

IAA is also running socials after these events for members and guests.

See: https://internet.asn.au/member/canberra-or-sydney/ for rego details

Narelle Clark
CEO
Internet Association of Australia

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 08:44, Terry Sweetser <terry.sweetser at apnic.net>
wrote:

> Furthering our work here at APNIC on Routing Security:
>
>
>
> Register for our upcoming RPKI/ROV Tutorial Australia (Canberra and
> Sydney) 18 July - 20 July 2023.
>
> APNIC Academy Training in Partnership with IAA
>
>
>
> This tutorial will look at current route filtering tools/techniques, how
> RPKI is just a piece in the puzzle, and what we should do to secure the
> internet routing.
>
>
>
> Find out more and register via APNIC Academy
>
> RPKI/ROV Tutorial  (Canberra) -
> https://academy.apnic.net/en/events?id=a0B2e000000dkIoEAI
>
> RPKI/ROV Tutorial  (Sydney). -
> https://academy.apnic.net/en/events?id=a0B2e000000dkKBEAY
>
>
>
> Hoping to see many of you at the tutorial and the social event.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *Terry Sweetser*
> Training Delivery Manager
> South Asia and Oceania
> e: terry.sweetser at apnic.net
> p: +61 7 3858 3100
> www.apnic.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Join the conversation: *blog.apnic.net <https://blog.apnic.net/>*
>
> [image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/APNIC> [image: Twitter]
> <https://twitter.com/apnic> [image: YouTube]
> <https://www.youtube.com/user/apnicmultimedia> [image: Flickr]
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/apnic/> [image: Weibo]
> <http://weibo.com/APNICrir> [image: Slideshare]
> <http://www.slideshare.net/apnic> [image: RSS]
> <https://blog.apnic.net/feed/> [image: LinkedIn]
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>
>
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>
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From cbbrown at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 12:06:58 2023
From: cbbrown at gmail.com (Chris Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:06:58 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
Message-ID: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.

This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.

Thanks.
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From k at rl.ag  Wed Jun 28 12:09:56 2023
From: k at rl.ag (Karl Kloppenborg)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:09:56 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM_aubW2T5HJQo0q2vHy4j4APbavQzWOji0aHfTeC6QWmqZjFA@mail.gmail.com>

Always flexoptics.

Always.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
> 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
> of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From tony at wicks.co.nz  Wed Jun 28 12:18:33 2023
From: tony at wicks.co.nz (Tony Wicks)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:18:33 +1200
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005301d9a966$d7a8e9f0$86fabdd0$@wicks.co.nz>

Have thousands of FS optics in use with very close to no issues.

 

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Chris Brown
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 2:07 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's

 

 

Hi All, 

 

Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 

 

This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 

 

Thanks. 

 

 

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From matt at spectrum.com.au  Wed Jun 28 12:18:52 2023
From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:18:52 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3fdb1fe-2b34-fecc-4dba-e6e2d252cbac@spectrum.com.au>

Fiber store is fine. No issues.

Matt


On 28/6/2023 12:06 pm, Chris Brown wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for 
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to 
> the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch 
> stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy?so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

-- 
** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL

/* Matt Perkins
         Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
         Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
         ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000

*/


From jamie at langshaw.id.au  Wed Jun 28 12:20:48 2023
From: jamie at langshaw.id.au (Jamie Langshaw)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:20:48 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <f3fdb1fe-2b34-fecc-4dba-e6e2d252cbac@spectrum.com.au>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <f3fdb1fe-2b34-fecc-4dba-e6e2d252cbac@spectrum.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAEt__G2S-TGs8fHuXsvbsvjE2mNQsbOfm8VpbL8bUG_5NC_54A@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for FS

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:19?AM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> Fiber store is fine. No issues.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 28/6/2023 12:06 pm, Chris Brown wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for
> > some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to
> > the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch
> > stock.
> >
> > This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
> --
> ** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL
>
> /* Matt Perkins
>          Direct 02 8916 8101     Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>          Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
>          ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>
> */
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
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> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From joe at slampt.net  Wed Jun 28 12:26:04 2023
From: joe at slampt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:26:04 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CAM_aubW2T5HJQo0q2vHy4j4APbavQzWOji0aHfTeC6QWmqZjFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_aubW2T5HJQo0q2vHy4j4APbavQzWOji0aHfTeC6QWmqZjFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A293F05B-FB6B-4F11-8E89-70536DD563CD@slampt.net>

+1 Flexoptix
. 

Reliability, Fast dispatch, great support.

Joe



> On 28 Jun 2023, at 10:09 am, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
> 
> Always flexoptics.
> 
> Always.
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com <mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 
>> 
>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

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From adamcsa07 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 12:30:42 2023
From: adamcsa07 at gmail.com (Adam)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:00:42 +0930
Subject: [AusNOG] Amazon AWS Connectivity Issue?
Message-ID: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

Is anyone seeing AWS Sydney connectivity problems?

We can't access any AWS services hosted in south-east-2 (we think). Have
shutdown peering on IX NSW and MegaPort. Traffic moved off to transit and
into Equinix Melbourne but exactly the same result. Has been going on since
around 10:30 am AEST. No reports on the AWS status page etc. At least one
other network has told us they are also seeing problems, but seems unusual
that AWS aren't reporting it and AusNOG hasn't lit up.

Everything seems fine on a TPG or Telstra connection.

Does seem some people are reporting problems on sites like Down Detector.

Anyone else?
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From adamcsa07 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 12:36:47 2023
From: adamcsa07 at gmail.com (Adam)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:06:47 +0930
Subject: [AusNOG] Amazon AWS Connectivity Issue?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFLw-ZiiUnAOVfgYSc7S+k1CXvcjpyqUS3WC9uVafujBuoNdA@mail.gmail.com>

And the moment I press send on this email, it's all come good!!!

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:00?PM Adam <adamcsa07 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Is anyone seeing AWS Sydney connectivity problems?
>
> We can't access any AWS services hosted in south-east-2 (we think). Have
> shutdown peering on IX NSW and MegaPort. Traffic moved off to transit and
> into Equinix Melbourne but exactly the same result. Has been going on since
> around 10:30 am AEST. No reports on the AWS status page etc. At least one
> other network has told us they are also seeing problems, but seems unusual
> that AWS aren't reporting it and AusNOG hasn't lit up.
>
> Everything seems fine on a TPG or Telstra connection.
>
> Does seem some people are reporting problems on sites like Down Detector.
>
> Anyone else?
>
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From mail at andrewwelch.net  Wed Jun 28 12:44:20 2023
From: mail at andrewwelch.net (Andrew Welch)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:14:20 +0930
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <A293F05B-FB6B-4F11-8E89-70536DD563CD@slampt.net>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM_aubW2T5HJQo0q2vHy4j4APbavQzWOji0aHfTeC6QWmqZjFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <A293F05B-FB6B-4F11-8E89-70536DD563CD@slampt.net>
Message-ID: <CAKCOLidNY0bZZxRiSoE3BWvZax4dqd74XxfC-tpk97YXGqE=iQ@mail.gmail.com>

Used FS and Cloudtronics personally, FS is easier/cheaper to recode, and
usually quicker delivery too.



On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 11:56, Joe <joe at slampt.net> wrote:

> +1 Flexoptix
> .
>
> Reliability, Fast dispatch, great support.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2023, at 10:09 am, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>
> Always flexoptics.
>
> Always.
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
>> 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
>> of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>>
>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From mark at mc.id.au  Wed Jun 28 13:21:53 2023
From: mark at mc.id.au (Mark Caetano)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:21:53 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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From brendan at halley.net.au  Wed Jun 28 13:25:16 2023
From: brendan at halley.net.au (Brendan Halley)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:25:16 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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+1 Flexoptix from Codecom

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:22?PM Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:

> Flex or bust. I have replaced far too many FS optics that have just
> started belching errors out of nowhere for absolutely no reason, especially
> within a week of being put into service. It?s simply not worth running the
> gauntlet for the minuscule cost saving
>
> Since going 100% flex, I think we have had about three out of over 1000
> deployed needing RMA.
>
> Codecom are our distributor, they hold local stock and can usually have
> the most common items to us overnight.
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:45, Andrew Welch <mail at andrewwelch.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Used FS and Cloudtronics personally, FS is easier/cheaper to recode, and
> usually quicker delivery too.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 11:56, Joe <joe at slampt.net> wrote:
>
>> +1 Flexoptix
>> .
>>
>> Reliability, Fast dispatch, great support.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 10:09 am, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>>
>> Always flexoptics.
>>
>> Always.
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
>>> 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
>>> of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>>>
>>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From drikusinaus at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 13:33:49 2023
From: drikusinaus at gmail.com (Drikus Brits)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:33:49 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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++on FlexOptics, works like a charm, reprogrammable as well with their
coder units..

Had probs 2 fail over the last 3 years, est active optics: ~400+

++ to Codecom as well, those guys give the persoanl attention you'd expect
when it comes to dealing with RMAs and assistance from FlexOptics
themselves..ask the nice folks at Codecom to organize you a coder with a
large order of optics :)

Ps: FlexOptic 40Gb-LR doesn't play well with HPE Synergy 12000 100Gb
VCs....but works a treat everywhere else..

D.

On Wed, 28 June 2023, 13:22 Mark Caetano, <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:

> Flex or bust. I have replaced far too many FS optics that have just
> started belching errors out of nowhere for absolutely no reason, especially
> within a week of being put into service. It?s simply not worth running the
> gauntlet for the minuscule cost saving
>
> Since going 100% flex, I think we have had about three out of over 1000
> deployed needing RMA.
>
> Codecom are our distributor, they hold local stock and can usually have
> the most common items to us overnight.
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:45, Andrew Welch <mail at andrewwelch.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Used FS and Cloudtronics personally, FS is easier/cheaper to recode, and
> usually quicker delivery too.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 11:56, Joe <joe at slampt.net> wrote:
>
>> +1 Flexoptix
>> .
>>
>> Reliability, Fast dispatch, great support.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 10:09 am, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>>
>> Always flexoptics.
>>
>> Always.
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
>>> 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
>>> of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>>>
>>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AusNOG mailing list
>>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From dave at dlbnetworks.com  Wed Jun 28 13:35:37 2023
From: dave at dlbnetworks.com (Dave Browning)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:35:37 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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FS if you like transceiver failures.
Flex if you like to sleep at night.

Here?s a quick FS vs Flex comparison; yes, I know it?s gross copper. And yes, that is the link flapping when you touch the cables, regardless of the number of cables or switches tried. And not just the one FS transceiver.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up

> On 28 Jun 2023, at 1:25 pm, Brendan Halley <brendan at halley.net.au> wrote:
> 
> +1 Flexoptix from Codecom
> 
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:22?PM Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:
> Flex or bust. I have replaced far too many FS optics that have just started belching errors out of nowhere for absolutely no reason, especially within a week of being put into service. It?s simply not worth running the gauntlet for the minuscule cost saving
> 
> Since going 100% flex, I think we have had about three out of over 1000 deployed needing RMA. 
> 
> Codecom are our distributor, they hold local stock and can usually have the most common items to us overnight. 
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:45, Andrew Welch <mail at andrewwelch.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Used FS and Cloudtronics personally, FS is easier/cheaper to recode, and usually quicker delivery too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 11:56, Joe <joe at slampt.net> wrote:
>> +1 Flexoptix
>> . 
>> 
>> Reliability, Fast dispatch, great support.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 10:09 am, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Always flexoptics.
>>> 
>>> Always.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 12:07, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, 
>>> 
>>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 
>>> 
>>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AusNOG mailing list
>>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
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From roddy at ibrox.org  Wed Jun 28 13:38:32 2023
From: roddy at ibrox.org (Roddy Strachan)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:38:32 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.


> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 
> 
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
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From k at rl.ag  Wed Jun 28 13:42:14 2023
From: k at rl.ag (Karl Kloppenborg)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:42:14 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <98798992-BC9D-4CD5-8C19-455E4C832AFC@ibrox.org>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
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Yet what happens when you literally knock FS optic: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up

Kind Regards,
--
Karl Kloppenborg, (BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)
Managing Director, Invention Labs.


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Roddy Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org>
Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
To: Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com>
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.


> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
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From roddy at ibrox.org  Wed Jun 28 13:42:48 2023
From: roddy at ibrox.org (Roddy Strachan)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:42:48 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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Haha, have to say never had a problem with them.


> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:42, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
> 
> Yet what happens when you literally knock FS optic: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up
>  
> Kind Regards,
> --
> Karl Kloppenborg, (BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)
> Managing Director, Invention Labs.
>  
>  
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Roddy Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org <mailto:roddy at ibrox.org>>
> Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
> To: Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com <mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com>>
> Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
> 
> Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.
> 
> 
> > On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com <mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi All, 
> > 
> > Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 
> > 
> > This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
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From matt at spectrum.com.au  Wed Jun 28 13:46:32 2023
From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:46:32 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
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Literally 1000's of FS components in the field. Nothing ever seen like 
that. But then i dont use copper. Looks just like mechanical fit.

Matt.


On 28/6/2023 1:42 pm, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:
>
> Yet what happens when you /literally/ knock FS optic: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> --
>
> *Karl Kloppenborg, */(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA 
> Linux+ XK0-004)/
>
> Managing Director, Invention Labs.
>
> *From: *AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Roddy 
> Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
> *To: *Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
>
> Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.
>
>
> > On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for 
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to 
> the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch 
> stock.
> >
> > This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 13:46:22 2023
From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:46:22 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
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Also never had an issue with FS. Like everything there will be some issues
one in a million, You'll only ever see the bad not the good :)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 11:43?AM Roddy Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org> wrote:

> Haha, have to say never had a problem with them.
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:42, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag> wrote:
>
> Yet what happens when you *literally* knock FS optic:
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up
>
> Kind Regards,
> --
> *Karl Kloppenborg, **(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA
> Linux+ XK0-004)*
> Managing Director, Invention Labs.
>
>
>
> *From: *AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Roddy
> Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
> *To: *Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
> Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.
>
>
> > On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some
> 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes
> of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
> >
> > This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From ltd at interlink.com.au  Wed Jun 28 13:49:57 2023
From: ltd at interlink.com.au (Lincoln Dale)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:49:57 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Amazon AWS Connectivity Issue?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAUJCVMqFYCC407e8hMcpq0fk5ri5=N-fF9TPbLjC2om9e6qDA@mail.gmail.com>

No issues with AWS. Don't observe anything awry either with regard to any
traffic movements etc.
Ping me offline with details of IPs, your ASN etc and I can look deeper.


On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:31?PM Adam <adamcsa07 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Is anyone seeing AWS Sydney connectivity problems?
>
> We can't access any AWS services hosted in south-east-2 (we think). Have
> shutdown peering on IX NSW and MegaPort. Traffic moved off to transit and
> into Equinix Melbourne but exactly the same result. Has been going on since
> around 10:30 am AEST. No reports on the AWS status page etc. At least one
> other network has told us they are also seeing problems, but seems unusual
> that AWS aren't reporting it and AusNOG hasn't lit up.
>
> Everything seems fine on a TPG or Telstra connection.
>
> Does seem some people are reporting problems on sites like Down Detector.
>
> Anyone else?
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From Steven.Waite at comtel.com.au  Wed Jun 28 13:51:08 2023
From: Steven.Waite at comtel.com.au (Steven Waite)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:51:08 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <59D2B8B0-30EC-48F3-A59E-68D962B3D3A5@ibrox.org>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <98798992-BC9D-4CD5-8C19-455E4C832AFC@ibrox.org>
 <PSAPR06MB4839648BEEC91EEBA2107BFDAA24A@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <59D2B8B0-30EC-48F3-A59E-68D962B3D3A5@ibrox.org>
Message-ID: <fd7b59a79f7044da88a783936017e8cb@comtel.com.au>

Good Afternoon Team
The fs.com sfp do seem to have a higher failure rate. Lucky enough for us Juniper has come out with common optics which are only a little more expensive then fs ones.
We have seen are rather high failure of 850nm optics. You do get what you pay for in the end. My concern is also about the aspects of security of these cheaper modules as you are placing a microcontroller with firmware into a switch.. You would not simply grab a USB key and plug it into your machine without any checks

Thanks Steve



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Roddy Strachan
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 1:43 PM
To: Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag>
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's

Haha, have to say never had a problem with them.



On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:42, Karl Kloppenborg <k at rl.ag<mailto:k at rl.ag>> wrote:

Yet what happens when you literally knock FS optic: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up

Kind Regards,
--
Karl Kloppenborg, (BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)
Managing Director, Invention Labs.


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Roddy Strachan <roddy at ibrox.org<mailto:roddy at ibrox.org>>
Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
To: Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com<mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com>>
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.


> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown <cbbrown at gmail.com<mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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From ausnog at tristramcheer.com  Wed Jun 28 13:53:32 2023
From: ausnog at tristramcheer.com (Tristram Cheer)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 15:53:32 +1200
Subject: [AusNOG] Amazon AWS Connectivity Issue?
In-Reply-To: <CAAUJCVMqFYCC407e8hMcpq0fk5ri5=N-fF9TPbLjC2om9e6qDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEFLw-Zm1qQH2FGecCCtdTqdMQztEMX2FBw5pko-_B6txy3+ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAUJCVMqFYCC407e8hMcpq0fk5ri5=N-fF9TPbLjC2om9e6qDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANhSiOHucfigFutkgXNV1Xg59S6WFL=6pD70gQtmKzVveaH7Cg@mail.gmail.com>

There was a route leaking issue into AWS approx ~4 hours ago lasting a
couple of hours. Router misconfig pumped an IX's worth of routes into AWS
and they appeared to accept them


On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 15:50, Lincoln Dale <ltd at interlink.com.au> wrote:

> No issues with AWS. Don't observe anything awry either with regard to any
> traffic movements etc.
> Ping me offline with details of IPs, your ASN etc and I can look deeper.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:31?PM Adam <adamcsa07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Is anyone seeing AWS Sydney connectivity problems?
>>
>> We can't access any AWS services hosted in south-east-2 (we think). Have
>> shutdown peering on IX NSW and MegaPort. Traffic moved off to transit and
>> into Equinix Melbourne but exactly the same result. Has been going on since
>> around 10:30 am AEST. No reports on the AWS status page etc. At least one
>> other network has told us they are also seeing problems, but seems unusual
>> that AWS aren't reporting it and AusNOG hasn't lit up.
>>
>> Everything seems fine on a TPG or Telstra connection.
>>
>> Does seem some people are reporting problems on sites like Down Detector.
>>
>> Anyone else?
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From shane at 2000cn.com.au  Wed Jun 28 13:54:59 2023
From: shane at 2000cn.com.au (Shane Chrisp)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:54:59 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37807e36-963d-9714-af95-b03760630a8f@2000cn.com.au>

On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:

Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC 
https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for 
more than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.


-- 
Regards

Shane Chrisp
2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
Mb 0412 409 856
Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
Web http://www.2000cn.com.au



>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for 
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to 
> the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch 
> stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy?so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog


From adamcsa07 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 14:12:52 2023
From: adamcsa07 at gmail.com (Adam)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:42:52 +0930
Subject: [AusNOG] Amazon AWS Connectivity Issue?
Message-ID: <468053B8-1ED2-4607-91A9-1F68CC4E516E@gmail.com>

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From tony at wicks.co.nz  Wed Jun 28 14:14:16 2023
From: tony at wicks.co.nz (Tony Wicks)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:14:16 +1200
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <f96c9bba-8a4f-5b20-d4cd-d03842496d28@spectrum.com.au>
References: <CAPLtX1XzBOAshc0TqhdyE4oHEpv=cK5FLVX=X8cFG0-JGLqy1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <98798992-BC9D-4CD5-8C19-455E4C832AFC@ibrox.org>
 <PSAPR06MB4839648BEEC91EEBA2107BFDAA24A@PSAPR06MB4839.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <f96c9bba-8a4f-5b20-d4cd-d03842496d28@spectrum.com.au>
Message-ID: <012401d9a977$02474d90$06d5e8b0$@wicks.co.nz>

Looks like a switch port issue to me.

 

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:47 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's

 

Literally 1000's of FS components in the field. Nothing ever seen like that. But then i dont use copper. Looks just like mechanical fit.  

Matt.

 

On 28/6/2023 1:42 pm, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:

Yet what happens when you literally knock FS optic: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QGY9gVTsTOjGRWsVdT0EEG3-P3gI9up

 

Kind Regards,

--

Karl Kloppenborg, (BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)

Managing Director, Invention Labs.

 

 

From: AusNOG  <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Roddy Strachan  <mailto:roddy at ibrox.org> <roddy at ibrox.org>
Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 1:39 pm
To: Chris Brown  <mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com> <cbbrown at gmail.com>
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>   <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's

Can?t knock FS, really good and well priced.


> On 28 Jun 2023, at 12:06, Chris Brown  <mailto:cbbrown at gmail.com> <cbbrown at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock. 
> 
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
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From mark at mc.id.au  Wed Jun 28 14:14:58 2023
From: mark at mc.id.au (Mark Caetano)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:14:58 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <37807e36-963d-9714-af95-b03760630a8f@2000cn.com.au>
References: <37807e36-963d-9714-af95-b03760630a8f@2000cn.com.au>
Message-ID: <CA2B096A-58A1-469A-AD40-D2C70A913672@mc.id.au>

What sealed the deal for me was sitting on the floor of a DC to replace a dodgy (new) 10G-LR and feeding an entire tray into this chassis, and every one of them belching errors instantly. Scheduling midnight outages to replace 4x failed SFP?s spread across Sydney that we were assured were a ?new and better quality? batch just rubbed salt in the wound. 

The aftersales support was pretty lacklustre even after demonstrating many many failures. It gets to a point when you need to remember you?re running a network, not a charity, and if they?re not up to par, there?s no ?giving them a chance?

We also had a decent cross-section of 100G-LR? and ER?s all faulty very early on before we just decided to return all of our stock to their warehouse. 

Codecom actually trust that a field tech/neteng know what they?re talking about when they say an optic is cooked, and send RMA without making you run through bullshit hoops. That, and Purcell will always take your call and endeavour to help where they can. 

That being said, FS uniboots are still the best patch leads. 

---
Regards,
Mark Caetano

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:56, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:
> 
> ?On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:
> 
> Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for more than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Shane Chrisp
> 2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
> U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
> Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
> Mb 0412 409 856
> Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
> Web http://www.2000cn.com.au
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>> 
>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From raphael.timothy at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 14:31:52 2023
From: raphael.timothy at gmail.com (Tim Raphael)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:31:52 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <CA2B096A-58A1-469A-AD40-D2C70A913672@mc.id.au>
References: <37807e36-963d-9714-af95-b03760630a8f@2000cn.com.au>
 <CA2B096A-58A1-469A-AD40-D2C70A913672@mc.id.au>
Message-ID: <53BD8FB5-B338-47B8-B857-97D7F4D3089E@gmail.com>

It?s less a case of 1-in-a-million and more about statistical likelihood of failure. 

Cheaper price = lower quality, it?s a case of when not if you?ll encounter a failure and if that?s acceptable to your business. 
If you?re prepared to have spares, prepared to see a link fail and can have it replaced in a reasonable time, that?s an acceptable risk.
If any of the above isn?t acceptable, you make a more reliable choice.

- Tim

> On 28 Jun 2023, at 14:14, Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:
> 
> What sealed the deal for me was sitting on the floor of a DC to replace a dodgy (new) 10G-LR and feeding an entire tray into this chassis, and every one of them belching errors instantly. Scheduling midnight outages to replace 4x failed SFP?s spread across Sydney that we were assured were a ?new and better quality? batch just rubbed salt in the wound. 
> 
> The aftersales support was pretty lacklustre even after demonstrating many many failures. It gets to a point when you need to remember you?re running a network, not a charity, and if they?re not up to par, there?s no ?giving them a chance?
> 
> We also had a decent cross-section of 100G-LR? and ER?s all faulty very early on before we just decided to return all of our stock to their warehouse. 
> 
> Codecom actually trust that a field tech/neteng know what they?re talking about when they say an optic is cooked, and send RMA without making you run through bullshit hoops. That, and Purcell will always take your call and endeavour to help where they can. 
> 
> That being said, FS uniboots are still the best patch leads. 
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:56, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> ?On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:
>> 
>> Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for more than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Shane Chrisp
>> 2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
>> U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
>> Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
>> Mb 0412 409 856
>> Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
>> Web http://www.2000cn.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>>> 
>>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AusNOG mailing list
>>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> 
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From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 15:05:29 2023
From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:05:29 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
In-Reply-To: <53BD8FB5-B338-47B8-B857-97D7F4D3089E@gmail.com>
References: <37807e36-963d-9714-af95-b03760630a8f@2000cn.com.au>
 <CA2B096A-58A1-469A-AD40-D2C70A913672@mc.id.au>
 <53BD8FB5-B338-47B8-B857-97D7F4D3089E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKZcER4a89Hz3sm2XF-D=v_vrjd2Vjza9ZboH_8FmC=wjAspWw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mark,

That sounds more like a Equipment issue rather than the SFP's Perhaps just
compatibility or power regulation to the SFP. Having 4 SFP's Fail at the
same time is highly unlikely even if they are FS. SFP's are Pretty basic
devices with a simple IC, generally a PIC for the ID and Optical Driver
IC's. There isnt much that can fail.

Ive used Codecom, FS and Genuine and have only had a handful of issues
(Usually with the Genuine), Most of the issues being Equipment rather than
the SFP itself.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:32?PM Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It?s less a case of 1-in-a-million and more about statistical likelihood
> of failure.
>
> Cheaper price = lower quality, it?s a case of when not if you?ll encounter
> a failure and if that?s acceptable to your business.
> If you?re prepared to have spares, prepared to see a link fail and can
> have it replaced in a reasonable time, that?s an acceptable risk.
> If any of the above isn?t acceptable, you make a more reliable choice.
>
> - Tim
>
> > On 28 Jun 2023, at 14:14, Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:
> >
> > What sealed the deal for me was sitting on the floor of a DC to replace
> a dodgy (new) 10G-LR and feeding an entire tray into this chassis, and
> every one of them belching errors instantly. Scheduling midnight outages to
> replace 4x failed SFP?s spread across Sydney that we were assured were a
> ?new and better quality? batch just rubbed salt in the wound.
> >
> > The aftersales support was pretty lacklustre even after demonstrating
> many many failures. It gets to a point when you need to remember you?re
> running a network, not a charity, and if they?re not up to par, there?s no
> ?giving them a chance?
> >
> > We also had a decent cross-section of 100G-LR? and ER?s all faulty very
> early on before we just decided to return all of our stock to their
> warehouse.
> >
> > Codecom actually trust that a field tech/neteng know what they?re
> talking about when they say an optic is cooked, and send RMA without making
> you run through bullshit hoops. That, and Purcell will always take your
> call and endeavour to help where they can.
> >
> > That being said, FS uniboots are still the best patch leads.
> >
> > ---
> > Regards,
> > Mark Caetano
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:56, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:
> >>
> >> Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC
> https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for more
> than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Shane Chrisp
> >> 2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
> >> U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
> >> Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
> >> Mb 0412 409 856
> >> Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
> >> Web http://www.2000cn.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the
> likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
> >>>
> >>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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From ljarasius at cdm.com.au  Wed Jun 28 15:23:38 2023
From: ljarasius at cdm.com.au (Louis Jarasius)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 05:23:38 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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Hi Mitch,

It also comes down to QC and general manufacturing tolerances. You see vendor optics fail, you see third party optics fail, regardless of the hardware in use. As Tim pointed out, quality and cost are usually interlinked.

Mark is highlighting that entire, large batches of FS optics have had major problems and he has had no support from the supplier. That doesn't sound like a hardware issue if you replace the optic with a different vendor and all of the issues disappear.

Regards,
Louis


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Hi Mark,

That sounds more like a Equipment issue rather than the SFP's Perhaps just compatibility or power regulation to the SFP. Having 4 SFP's Fail at the same time is highly unlikely even if they are FS. SFP's are Pretty basic devices with a simple IC, generally a PIC for the ID and Optical Driver IC's. There isnt much that can fail.

Ive used Codecom, FS and Genuine and have only had a handful of issues (Usually with the Genuine), Most of the issues being Equipment rather than the SFP itself.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:32?PM Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com<mailto:raphael.timothy at gmail.com>> wrote:
It?s less a case of 1-in-a-million and more about statistical likelihood of failure.

Cheaper price = lower quality, it?s a case of when not if you?ll encounter a failure and if that?s acceptable to your business.
If you?re prepared to have spares, prepared to see a link fail and can have it replaced in a reasonable time, that?s an acceptable risk.
If any of the above isn?t acceptable, you make a more reliable choice.

- Tim

> On 28 Jun 2023, at 14:14, Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au<mailto:mark at mc.id.au>> wrote:
>
> What sealed the deal for me was sitting on the floor of a DC to replace a dodgy (new) 10G-LR and feeding an entire tray into this chassis, and every one of them belching errors instantly. Scheduling midnight outages to replace 4x failed SFP?s spread across Sydney that we were assured were a ?new and better quality? batch just rubbed salt in the wound.
>
> The aftersales support was pretty lacklustre even after demonstrating many many failures. It gets to a point when you need to remember you?re running a network, not a charity, and if they?re not up to par, there?s no ?giving them a chance?
>
> We also had a decent cross-section of 100G-LR? and ER?s all faulty very early on before we just decided to return all of our stock to their warehouse.
>
> Codecom actually trust that a field tech/neteng know what they?re talking about when they say an optic is cooked, and send RMA without making you run through bullshit hoops. That, and Purcell will always take your call and endeavour to help where they can.
>
> That being said, FS uniboots are still the best patch leads.
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Mark Caetano
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:56, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au<mailto:shane at 2000cn.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> ?On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:
>>
>> Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for more than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Shane Chrisp
>> 2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
>> U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
>> Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
>> Mb 0412 409 856
>> Email shane at 2000cn.com.au<mailto:shane at 2000cn.com.au>
>> Web http://www.2000cn.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
>>>
>>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From mark at mc.id.au  Wed Jun 28 15:57:21 2023
From: mark at mc.id.au (Mark Caetano)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 15:57:21 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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From tomas.gibbs31 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 16:05:24 2023
From: tomas.gibbs31 at gmail.com (Tomas)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:05:24 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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Flex all the way.
I have had 3 failed Flex Optix this year warranty was super simple Codecom
had me a replacement the next day.

I have lost count of the amount of fs optics I have had fail and every
single time warranty is long and painful, Due to when the optic is out of
their time frame for direct swaps they ship them to China for repairs which
I have been told by fs the expected time frame is a few months.

Regards
Tomas

On Wed, 28 June 2023, 3:23 pm Louis Jarasius, <ljarasius at cdm.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Mitch,
>
> It also comes down to QC and general manufacturing tolerances. You see
> vendor optics fail, you see third party optics fail, regardless of the
> hardware in use. As Tim pointed out, quality and cost are usually
> interlinked.
>
> Mark is highlighting that entire, large batches of FS optics have had
> major problems and he has had no support from the supplier. That doesn't
> sound like a hardware issue if you replace the optic with a different
> vendor and all of the issues disappear.
>
> Regards,
> Louis
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> <mitchkelly24 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:05 PM
> *To:* Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
>
>
>
>
> *[EXTERNAL EMAIL]:* DO NOT CLICK links or open attachments unless you
> recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> That sounds more like a Equipment issue rather than the SFP's Perhaps just
> compatibility or power regulation to the SFP. Having 4 SFP's Fail at the
> same time is highly unlikely even if they are FS. SFP's are Pretty basic
> devices with a simple IC, generally a PIC for the ID and Optical Driver
> IC's. There isnt much that can fail.
>
> Ive used Codecom, FS and Genuine and have only had a handful of issues
> (Usually with the Genuine), Most of the issues being Equipment rather than
> the SFP itself.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:32?PM Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It?s less a case of 1-in-a-million and more about statistical likelihood
> of failure.
>
> Cheaper price = lower quality, it?s a case of when not if you?ll encounter
> a failure and if that?s acceptable to your business.
> If you?re prepared to have spares, prepared to see a link fail and can
> have it replaced in a reasonable time, that?s an acceptable risk.
> If any of the above isn?t acceptable, you make a more reliable choice.
>
> - Tim
>
> > On 28 Jun 2023, at 14:14, Mark Caetano <mark at mc.id.au> wrote:
> >
> > What sealed the deal for me was sitting on the floor of a DC to replace
> a dodgy (new) 10G-LR and feeding an entire tray into this chassis, and
> every one of them belching errors instantly. Scheduling midnight outages to
> replace 4x failed SFP?s spread across Sydney that we were assured were a
> ?new and better quality? batch just rubbed salt in the wound.
> >
> > The aftersales support was pretty lacklustre even after demonstrating
> many many failures. It gets to a point when you need to remember you?re
> running a network, not a charity, and if they?re not up to par, there?s no
> ?giving them a chance?
> >
> > We also had a decent cross-section of 100G-LR? and ER?s all faulty very
> early on before we just decided to return all of our stock to their
> warehouse.
> >
> > Codecom actually trust that a field tech/neteng know what they?re
> talking about when they say an optic is cooked, and send RMA without making
> you run through bullshit hoops. That, and Purcell will always take your
> call and endeavour to help where they can.
> >
> > That being said, FS uniboots are still the best patch leads.
> >
> > ---
> > Regards,
> > Mark Caetano
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 28 Jun 2023, at 13:56, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:
> >>
> >> Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC
> https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for more
> than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Shane Chrisp
> >> 2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
> >> U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
> >> Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
> >> Mb 0412 409 856
> >> Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
> >> Web http://www.2000cn.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to the
> likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch stock.
> >>>
> >>> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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From chris at thesysadmin.dev  Wed Jun 28 19:23:08 2023
From: chris at thesysadmin.dev (Christopher Hawker)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:23:08 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco Compatible SFP's
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The PlusOptic gear from 4Cabling (https://www.4cabling.com.au/fibre-products/rj45-media-converters/sfp-modules.html?trans_vendor=PlusOptic) is excellent stuff, their optics have never failed for as long as I've used them. Bill from their product team is an oracle when it comes to this sort of stuff. They do all the coding in-house if they don't have it on the shelf.

Yes, you may pay a little more than FS.com however it's backed by an Australian-owned and operated team and they can do same-day warranty claims if they have the stock (not that I've ever had a need to). They also usually keep stock in Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth as well for those not in Sydney.

- CH

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On 28/6/23 10:06, Chris Brown wrote:

Have to mention another good supplier is Simple Tech APAC
https://www.simpletech.com.au/. We have been using their modules for
more than 10 years and have never had a faulty one yet.


--
Regards

Shane Chrisp
2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
U8, 19 Outram St, West Perth, WA 6005
Ph 08 6298 7391 Fx 08 6298 7393
Mb 0412 409 856
Email shane at 2000cn.com.au
Web http://www.2000cn.com.au



>
> Hi All,
>
> Who do we use and trust for Cisco Compatible SFPs? I'm looking for
> some 1000Base-LX and the cisco price is completely crazy compared to
> the likes of FS who just seem too cheap but also have quick dispatch
> stock.
>
> This is for floor switches with redundancy so its not super critical.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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From felix at ffetc.net  Wed Jun 28 19:46:24 2023
From: felix at ffetc.net (Felix Friedlander)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:46:24 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] TransACT old telephony contact
Message-ID: <D4C11EC4-BCB7-4FE2-BCC2-BDF462F18122@ffetc.net>

Hi all,

Bit of an unusual request, apologies if it?s a little off-topic.

If anyone is, knows, or could put me in touch with someone who looked (looks?) after TransACT?s old analog telephony services, could you please contact me off-list?

Thanks,

-- 
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