From andrew at osi.com.au  Thu Apr  8 16:38:26 2021
From: andrew at osi.com.au (Andrew Radke)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:38:26 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Fibre backhaul options
Message-ID: <CEB8753D-D3D4-4F58-B17B-15EA3C2F687E@osi.com.au>

Good afternoon all,

We?re a small WISP in Far North Queensland. We?ve been in discussions with QCN Fibre for almost a year trying to get fibre backhaul from them and while it is progressing it is painful and bureaucratic.

Our main premises is only 150m from a Telstra exchange with direct conduit between. We?re also only about 200m from a fibre interconnect point on an Ergon pole with Optus fibre on it. And we are within a few hundred metres of the inland fibre path between Cairns and Brisbane that may have other options.

So we?d like to talk to someone from Telstra, Optus and anyone else that might be able to assist with options. If anyone here could direct us to appropriate people off list that would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew Radke

Open Spaces Internet Pty Ltd
Ph: 0412 798 593 <tel:0412798593>
Web: osi.com.au <https://osi.com.au/>
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From info at remoteisp.com.au  Thu Apr  8 16:53:49 2021
From: info at remoteisp.com.au (Michael Drummond)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:53:49 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Fibre backhaul options
In-Reply-To: <CEB8753D-D3D4-4F58-B17B-15EA3C2F687E@osi.com.au>
References: <CEB8753D-D3D4-4F58-B17B-15EA3C2F687E@osi.com.au>
Message-ID: <E11CA89A-902C-451F-AD65-077C9FD06753@remoteisp.com.au>

Don?t bother with T and O if you have other options. You will pay 400% what is worth. You can off list me with an address and I?ll do a few searches for providers we have if you like. We are small as well but have a far few contacts. 

Micheal 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Apr 2021, at 16:40, Andrew Radke <andrew at osi.com.au> wrote:
> 
> ?Good afternoon all,
> 
> We?re a small WISP in Far North Queensland. We?ve been in discussions with QCN Fibre for almost a year trying to get fibre backhaul from them and while it is progressing it is painful and bureaucratic.
> 
> Our main premises is only 150m from a Telstra exchange with direct conduit between. We?re also only about 200m from a fibre interconnect point on an Ergon pole with Optus fibre on it. And we are within a few hundred metres of the inland fibre path between Cairns and Brisbane that may have other options.
> 
> So we?d like to talk to someone from Telstra, Optus and anyone else that might be able to assist with options. If anyone here could direct us to appropriate people off list that would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andrew Radke
> 
> Open Spaces Internet Pty Ltd
> Ph: 0412 798 593
> Web: osi.com.au
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From email at chrishawker.com.au  Thu Apr  8 21:29:59 2021
From: email at chrishawker.com.au (Christopher Hawker)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 21:29:59 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco 5G Rack-Mountable ISR
Message-ID: <E53C73FE-367D-4243-A8A0-1E8E93ABD965@chrishawker.com.au>

Hello All,

I?m trying to find a Cisco 5G WWAN ISR (not the 5G WiFi) preferably rack-mountable with the ability to run an antenna external to the building, for use as failover to a fibre service. We all know how those backhoes love fibre pipes...

If anyone has any model numbers (or better yet knows where to source them), please let me know. I?d appreciate it.

Thanks,
CH

Sent from my iPhone

From spoofer-info at caida.org  Fri Apr  9 03:00:09 2021
From: spoofer-info at caida.org (CAIDA Spoofer Project)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:00:09 -0700
Subject: [AusNOG] Spoofer Report for AusNOG for Mar 2021
Message-ID: <1617901209.037760.5104.nullmailer@caida.org>

In response to feedback from operational security communities,
CAIDA's source address validation measurement project
(https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly
reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which
we received packets with a spoofed source address.
We are publishing these reports to network and security operations
lists in order to ensure this information reaches operational
contacts in these ASes.

This report summarises tests conducted within aus.

Inferred improvements during Mar 2021:
ASN    Name                                           Fixed-By
134697 LAUNTEL                                        2021-03-22

Further information for the inferred remediation is available at:
https://spoofer.caida.org/remedy.php

Source Address Validation issues inferred during Mar 2021:
ASN    Name                           First-Spoofed Last-Spoofed
45671  AS45671-NET-AU                    2020-08-18   2021-03-25
134697 LAUNTEL                           2020-09-03   2021-03-27

Further information for these tests where we received spoofed
packets is available at:
https://spoofer.caida.org/recent_tests.php?country_include=aus&no_block=1

Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org

From brzovicadam at gmail.com  Sun Apr 11 18:29:40 2021
From: brzovicadam at gmail.com (adam brzovic)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:29:40 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
Message-ID: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus
datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months
on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers
and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do
not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new
provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone
which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers
to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer
to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all
the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street
datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small
customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
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From dazzagibbs at gmail.com  Sun Apr 11 19:33:20 2021
From: dazzagibbs at gmail.com (DaZZa)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:33:20 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMpV8MorV3rxPY1paX5X2m5N8qwRxYKuG=k8sDM+a7W8sy4mVw@mail.gmail.com>

Haven't seen any notice, but I'm sure as hell going to be hitting my
account rep up on Monday, because I'm pretty sure I've got at least half a
dozen services that run through there in one way or another.

Thanks for posting.

I guess Vocus is more concerned about so showing off for their new owners
(or potential owners if the deal isn't done yet) than bothering with
customer service anymore.

D

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 6:30 pm adam brzovic, <brzovicadam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne
> Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4
> months on the 1st of August 2021.
>
> I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of
> servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago
> so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding
> a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
>
> I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone
> which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers
> to a new location.
>
> Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would
> offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about
> all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to
> them.
>
> Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street
> datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small
> customers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From ibi.kay at gmail.com  Sun Apr 11 19:44:27 2021
From: ibi.kay at gmail.com (Ibrahim Kunduraci)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 19:44:27 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <CAMpV8MorV3rxPY1paX5X2m5N8qwRxYKuG=k8sDM+a7W8sy4mVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8MorV3rxPY1paX5X2m5N8qwRxYKuG=k8sDM+a7W8sy4mVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH=Kgh=dr5cYB0gzZcfKFB7=NucBVC4dGw2-pLRL8OSZZRjuUA@mail.gmail.com>

We?ve been notified and are working with Vocus to be migrated to either
NextDC or Equinix.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 19:33, DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Haven't seen any notice, but I'm sure as hell going to be hitting my
> account rep up on Monday, because I'm pretty sure I've got at least half a
> dozen services that run through there in one way or another.
>
> Thanks for posting.
>
> I guess Vocus is more concerned about so showing off for their new owners
> (or potential owners if the deal isn't done yet) than bothering with
> customer service anymore.
>
> D
>
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 6:30 pm adam brzovic, <brzovicadam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne
>> Primus datacenter at 55 King
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/55+King?entry=gmail&source=g> Street
>> operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.
>>
>> I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of
>> servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago
>> so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding
>> a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
>>
>> I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone
>> which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers
>> to a new location.
>>
>> Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would
>> offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about
>> all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to
>> them.
>>
>> Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street
>> datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small
>> customers.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From nickevendor at outlook.com  Sun Apr 11 20:13:00 2021
From: nickevendor at outlook.com (Nick Evendor)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:13:00 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <CAH=Kgh=dr5cYB0gzZcfKFB7=NucBVC4dGw2-pLRL8OSZZRjuUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8MorV3rxPY1paX5X2m5N8qwRxYKuG=k8sDM+a7W8sy4mVw@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CAH=Kgh=dr5cYB0gzZcfKFB7=NucBVC4dGw2-pLRL8OSZZRjuUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PSXP216MB026215F82C89B6D317A27CD0B2719@PSXP216MB0262.KORP216.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

We were also notified and have been talking with Micron21 to relocate some services for us. They have a DC Rescue deal for anyone in 55 King street offering 6 months free services which is fantastic. https://www.micron21.com/dc-rescue

Nick
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Ibrahim Kunduraci <ibi.kay at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 9:44 AM
To: DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>; adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing

We?ve been notified and are working with Vocus to be migrated to either NextDC or Equinix.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 19:33, DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com<mailto:dazzagibbs at gmail.com>> wrote:
Haven't seen any notice, but I'm sure as hell going to be hitting my account rep up on Monday, because I'm pretty sure I've got at least half a dozen services that run through there in one way or another.

Thanks for posting.

I guess Vocus is more concerned about so showing off for their new owners (or potential owners if the deal isn't done yet) than bothering with customer service anymore.

D

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 6:30 pm adam brzovic, <brzovicadam at gmail.com<mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King<https://www.google.com/maps/search/55+King?entry=gmail&source=g> Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator

_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
_______________________________________________
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From david at hughes.id  Mon Apr 12 12:43:46 2021
From: david at hughes.id (David Hughes)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 02:43:46 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2021 - September 2 & 3
Message-ID: <4F0C2437-4D88-44FF-90DB-41B24D25CF02@hughes.id>


I'm delighted to be able to announce the 2021 AusNOG conference will be held on the 2nd & 3rd of September at the Fullerton Hotel Sydney (ex Westin Hotel).  AusNOG 2021 will be a traditional, face-to-face event providing our industry with a much needed opportunity to reconnect.  The venue is already holding many events and all appropriate Covid-safe protocols will be followed.  

Come and join your peers for 2 days of quality content and professional networking.  Registration for AusNOG 2021 will open in June, and the Call for Presentations will be issued shortly.   We look forward to seeing you in Sydney in September.



David, on behalf of the AusNOG Board
...


From terry at terrym.net  Mon Apr 12 17:13:19 2021
From: terry at terrym.net (Terry Manderson)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 17:13:19 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2021 Call for Presentations
Message-ID: <687D7F75-A095-405C-B4CB-EF6F01633AFB@terrym.net>

Colleagues, 


Here starts the AusNOG 2021 Call for Presentations.


AusNOG 2021 will be held 'IN PERSON' on the 2nd and 3rd of September at 
the Fullerton Sydney

As usual we are making a call for people to submit proposals 
for talks at AusNOG 2021 that would be of interest to the
Internet operations community, ie technical presentations and 
not sales talks.

Previous feedback from attendees has strongly suggested that AusNOG 
participants prefer to hear from operators. So, we are especially 
interested in operators who can share what they know! 
(for example, sharing experiences about COVID-19 impacts, deployments, 
or other things that truely impact operations).

Notes to Presenters
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Preference will be given to controversial/thought-provoking or technological 
advancement presentations that result in actual operational outcomes.

Speaking slots are typically 30 minutes, including Q&A time, although we
can accommodate a limited number of requests for 45/60 minute slots. We
would also entertain requests for 15 minute presentations. There will 
be a call for lightning talks (5 minutes) closer to the event.

By submitting a presentation for consideration in the AusNOG 2021
programme, and if selected the presenter will allow AusNOG to:

* Take photographs of the presentation and presenter
* Record and rebroadcast video and audio of the presentation and
presenter
* Redistribute the presentation slides, audio, video, and photographs
electronically, on the AusNOG website, or otherwise but leaving
all intellectual property in the hands of presenter or rightful
property holder[1].

Selected presenters receive complimentary registration while those not 
selected will be offered registration at the early bird rate.

Deadlines
=-=-=-=-=

18 June: Submission of presentation title, presentation description
         (300 words), and presenter biography (150 words)

23 July: Presenters notified of their acceptance status as an
         AusNOG 2021 presentation.

20 August: Submission of final presentation slides as *PowerPoint or
         Keynote* and provision of a recent digital
         photograph (<500k) of the presenter.

All submissions MUST be sent by email to programme AT ausnog DOT net.

[1]: AusNOG accepts that some speakers are unable to allow us to archive
their presentation due to company or corporate policy, and if the
situation arises AusNOG will delete all copies in its possession after
the presentation.

Cheers
Terry

On Behalf of the Programme Committee, and on behalf of the AusNOG Board

From nathanael at prodigy.com.au  Tue Apr 13 10:40:35 2021
From: nathanael at prodigy.com.au (Nathanael Bettridge)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 00:40:35 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.

-Nathanael Bettridge

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing


Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
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From lists at dreamboat.id.au  Tue Apr 13 11:07:41 2021
From: lists at dreamboat.id.au (Mailing Lists)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:07:41 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CAKPE9gS_SYjGSxMH8-gyyZ31YvkjfpEm-3uQWSMBVcM+e7EkDg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the
building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go
through it.

Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account
managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.

Cheers,
Damien.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <
nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:

> Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59
> Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re
> exiting the business entirely.
>
>
>
> -Nathanael Bettridge
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *adam
> brzovic
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne
> Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4
> months on the 1st of August 2021.
>
> I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of
> servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago
> so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding
> a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
>
> I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone
> which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers
> to a new location.
>
> Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would
> offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about
> all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to
> them.
>
> Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street
> datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small
> customers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From nathanael at prodigy.com.au  Tue Apr 13 16:26:19 2021
From: nathanael at prodigy.com.au (Nathanael Bettridge)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 06:26:19 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <CAKPE9gS_SYjGSxMH8-gyyZ31YvkjfpEm-3uQWSMBVcM+e7EkDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <CAKPE9gS_SYjGSxMH8-gyyZ31YvkjfpEm-3uQWSMBVcM+e7EkDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SYCP282MB0655218CC04F89ADD0D4AE63854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.

-Nathanael Bettridge


From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au>
Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com>; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing

Hi All,

There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.

Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.

Cheers,
Damien.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>> wrote:
Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.

-Nathanael Bettridge

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing


Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
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From jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au  Wed Apr 14 21:33:48 2021
From: jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au (Jared Hirst)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:33:48 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <SYCP282MB0655218CC04F89ADD0D4AE63854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <CAKPE9gS_SYjGSxMH8-gyyZ31YvkjfpEm-3uQWSMBVcM+e7EkDg@mail.gmail.com>,
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Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.

"
Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the Australian Financial Review.<http://www.afr.com/street-talk/macquarie-runs-numbers-on-vocus-groups-data-centres-20170503-gvyfmm> Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.
The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."

Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.

- Jared

[Sent from Front]
On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:


Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.



-Nathanael Bettridge





From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au<mailto:lists at dreamboat.id.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>>
Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com<mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>>; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All,



There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.



Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.



Cheers,

Damien.



On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>> wrote:

Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.



-Nathanael Bettridge



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator

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From michelle at sorbs.net  Wed Apr 14 21:50:22 2021
From: michelle at sorbs.net (Michelle Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:50:22 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <SYCP282MB0479130C003B61BD384E35C6BF4E9@SYCP282MB0479.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <CAKPE9gS_SYjGSxMH8-gyyZ31YvkjfpEm-3uQWSMBVcM+e7EkDg@mail.gmail.com>
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Wonder if that?s why the SORBS mirror went offline?  I didn?t get any notification and it just disappeared.. can?t connect to the OOB port etc... :/

Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/
Hallowed are those that walk in unison.

> On 14 Apr 2021, at 21:33, Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.
> 
> "
> Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the Australian Financial Review. Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.
> The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."
> 
> Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.
> 
> - Jared
> 
> 
>> On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.
>>  
>> -Nathanael Bettridge
>>  
>>  
>> From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
>> To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au>
>> Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com>; ausnog at ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.
>>  
>> Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Damien.
>>  
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:
>> Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.
>>  
>> -Nathanael Bettridge
>>  
>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
>> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
>> Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
>>  
>> Hi All
>> 
>> I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.
>> 
>> I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
>> 
>> I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.
>> 
>> Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.
>> 
>> Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From nick at npratley.net  Wed Apr 14 21:55:38 2021
From: nick at npratley.net (Nick Pratley)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:55:38 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <SYCP282MB0479130C003B61BD384E35C6BF4E9@SYCP282MB0479.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <a0bc29fc-756e-4453-859a-2a552640672b@Spark>

Seems legit...

https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/

Charter Hall seem to want to knock the building down.
On 14 Apr 2021, 9:34 PM +1000, Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>, wrote:
> Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.
>
> "
> Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the?Australian Financial Review.?Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.
> The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."
>
> Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.
>
> - Jared
>
>
> > On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au wrote:
> >
> > Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.
> >
> > -Nathanael Bettridge
> >
> >
> > From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
> > To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au>
> > Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com>; ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.
> >
> > Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Damien.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:
> > > quote_type
> > > Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.
> > >
> > > -Nathanael Bettridge
> > >
> > > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
> > > Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
> > > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > > Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > > I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.
> > > I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
> > > I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.
> > > Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.
> > > Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.
> > > Thanks
> > > Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From jamesmurphyau at me.com  Wed Apr 14 21:57:21 2021
From: jamesmurphyau at me.com (James Murphy)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:57:21 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
In-Reply-To: <a0bc29fc-756e-4453-859a-2a552640672b@Spark>
References: <CALUJpmFQygAXLOu2QWpEP4drK47h2i6jgOSOb7CXbOOn+q6kmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <SYCP282MB0655962C775165BE288E40E3854F9@SYCP282MB0655.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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I don't think anyone is disputing the fact its the truth (are they?) - I think people are more speculating the fact that it couldn't possibly be the truth if the first they are hearing about it is on a mailing list (rather than from their account manager)

It seems like - as bad as that would be - that's exactly what has happened.. And if Vocus is remaining in any type of Telecommunication business after exiting the Datacenter business, they're going to have to offer some ridiculously cheap prices or suck some major ass after this (now public) major ball drop .. 

People (well, definitely me) are reading this email thread wondering how on earth people are really only finding out about these data centre plans via a mailing list or by finding a lost email in their spam folder?!?

We just left 55 King over the past two weeks - so I'm glad we weren't as unlucky as others.. But if we were just finding out about this after reading this email thread, I'm sure my boss would be loosing it


> On 14 Apr 2021, at 9:55 pm, Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net> wrote:
> 
> Seems legit...
> 
> https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/ <https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/>
> 
> Charter Hall seem to want to knock the building down. 
> On 14 Apr 2021, 9:34 PM +1000, Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>, wrote:
>> Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.
>> 
>> "
>> Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the Australian Financial Review. <http://www.afr.com/street-talk/macquarie-runs-numbers-on-vocus-groups-data-centres-20170503-gvyfmm> Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.
>> The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."
>> 
>> Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.
>> 
>> - Jared
>> 
>> 
>>> On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au <mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.
>>>  
>>> -Nathanael Bettridge
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au <mailto:lists at dreamboat.id.au>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
>>> To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au <mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>>
>>> Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com <mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>>; ausnog at ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
>>>  
>>> Hi All,
>>>  
>>> There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.
>>>  
>>> Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>> Damien.
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au <mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>> wrote:
>>> Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.
>>>  
>>> -Nathanael Bettridge
>>>  
>>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
>>> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
>>> To: ausnog at ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
>>>  
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.
>>> 
>>> I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.
>>> 
>>> I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.
>>> 
>>> Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AusNOG mailing list
>>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog <http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog>_______________________________________________
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From jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au  Thu Apr 15 09:07:41 2021
From: jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au (Jared Hirst)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:07:41 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
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100% as I said they need to close those sites, but I can?t find a reason for Doody St. Seems that?s just been tagged onto the 55 King St reason.

Just terrible that no one got notice and it was announced here :(


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P: (02) 8115 8801
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On 14 April 2021, 9:57 pm AEST jamesmurphyau at me.com<mailto:jamesmurphyau at me.com> wrote:

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact its the truth (are they?) - I think people are more speculating the fact that it couldn't possibly be the truth if the first they are hearing about it is on a mailing list (rather than from their account manager)

It seems like - as bad as that would be - that's exactly what has happened.. And if Vocus is remaining in any type of Telecommunication business after exiting the Datacenter business, they're going to have to offer some ridiculously cheap prices or suck some major ass after this (now public) major ball drop ..

People (well, definitely me) are reading this email thread wondering how on earth people are really only finding out about these data centre plans via a mailing list or by finding a lost email in their spam folder?!?

We just left 55 King over the past two weeks - so I'm glad we weren't as unlucky as others.. But if we were just finding out about this after reading this email thread, I'm sure my boss would be loosing it


On 14 Apr 2021, at 9:55 pm, Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net<mailto:nick at npratley.net>> wrote:

Seems legit...

https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/

Charter Hall seem to want to knock the building down.
On 14 Apr 2021, 9:34 PM +1000, Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au<mailto:jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>>, wrote:
Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.

"
Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the Australian Financial Review.<http://www.afr.com/street-talk/macquarie-runs-numbers-on-vocus-groups-data-centres-20170503-gvyfmm> Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.
The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."

Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.

- Jared

[Sent from Front]
On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:

Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.



-Nathanael Bettridge





From: Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au<mailto:lists at dreamboat.id.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>>
Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com<mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>>; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All,



There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.



Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.



Cheers,
Damien.



On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>> wrote:
Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.



-Nathanael Bettridge



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator

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From shah.hardik at techflow.com.au  Thu Apr 15 11:48:41 2021
From: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au (Shah Hardik)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:48:41 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
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Guys, I don?t think this is the first time any organisation is reacting to
change of circumstances or change of strategy.



Vocus like every other provider has full right to relocate customers or
offer them to leave ? which is a sad thing for customers off course but if
we are suggesting that no other company have ever done this then we are
clearly being selective about what we choose to see.



Obviously every customer deserves the right to be notified and helped to
most extent when any of their services are going to be affected. But again,
we don?t know if none of the customers have been notified or some or maybe
there is some other strategy/solution that Vocus might have for customers
going to be impacted. I know as a fact that ?some? other customer were well
aware of the 55 King shutting since November as those customers are moving
their colo to us. So its unfair to blame the whole organisation without
knowing the full facts.

   - Again if we are claiming that every provider in the market is perfect
   in everything they do and how they handle changes/outages, I think we are
   being delusional.



Regarding Vocus trying to offload its DC in 2017 ? its not the first nor
the last time a business chooses to do something of that nature. I have
been personally involved in many discussions around providers offloading
DCs or small space or cages (Pipe, AAPT, Telstra, Vocus and many other
?Service providers? moving out of GS) to name a few and impacted customers
in every occasions disappointed with the situation. However that is what I
have seen as a norm in last 15 years and I don?t think it will change in
future.



I am sure we all thrive to deliver best services to our customers and
obviously we expect the best from our providers ? but beating someone over
without knowing full facts is unfair to say the least. I guess we will see
in a few weeks/months about what happens with 55 King St.



p.s. the link to the article was provided by Nick as DA as evidence was
requested to prove the claim of knockdown vs conspiracy.



Best regards,

Shah Hardik

Director

Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366

Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009

Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au



*From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Jared Hirst
*Sent:* Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:08 AM
*To:* James Murphy <jamesmurphyau at me.com>; Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net>
*Cc:* damien at vocus.com.au; Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au>;
AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>; adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com
>
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



100% as I said they need to close those sites, but I can?t find a reason
for Doody St. Seems that?s just been tagged onto the 55 King St reason.



Just terrible that no one got notice and it was announced here :(





Jared Hirst
Chief Executive Officer
P: (02) 8115 8801
4 Amy Close, Wyong, NSW 2259
Need assistance? We are here 24/7 +61 2 8115 8888

[image: Sent from Front]

On 14 April 2021, 9:57 pm AEST jamesmurphyau at me.com wrote:



I don't think anyone is disputing the fact its the truth (are they?) - I
think people are more speculating the fact that it couldn't possibly be the
truth if the first they are hearing about it is on a mailing list (rather
than from their account manager)



It seems like - as bad as that would be - that's exactly what has
happened.. And if Vocus is remaining in any type of Telecommunication
business after exiting the Datacenter business, they're going to have to
offer some ridiculously cheap prices or suck some major ass after this (now
public) major ball drop ..



People (well, definitely me) are reading this email thread wondering how on
earth people are really only finding out about these data centre plans via
a mailing list or by finding a lost email in their spam folder?!?



We just left 55 King over the past two weeks - so I'm glad we weren't as
unlucky as others.. But if we were just finding out about this after
reading this email thread, I'm sure my boss would be loosing it





On 14 Apr 2021, at 9:55 pm, Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net> wrote:



Seems legit...

https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/

Charter Hall seem to want to knock the building down.

On 14 Apr 2021, 9:34 PM +1000, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>, wrote:

Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried
to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.



"

Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian
data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were
valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report
in the *Australian Financial Review.
<https://t.sidekickopen87.com/s3t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7kv8bNNrKW5bQGGY2zGCwVW8Jbw_863BfPzN3MxYkMQZtMvW4XXTDW16gGBmf8DLq8G01?te=W3R5hFj26QkHmW4mKDsS3M7fxBW43T4P74fM_pZW4fdh-y3ZXDkcW3z8nP93zgDbpW1GHd3R4cfLZhW3_RwhR4cfM1WW1GJVrJ4hLTtkW49PHnM4cfL3wW4fDRqL3K78h0W3K96pn1N4KgnW1YZ0ZG3P7BwW39CN2&si=5046652182331392&pi=4f0743e2-ba4a-4f60-82f6-e24e87695652>*
Vocus
made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50
million the previous financial year.

The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core
Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further
approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in
August."



Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea,
the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should
be open about it if that is the truth.



- Jared



[image: Sent from Front]

On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au wrote:

Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open
before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters
whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the
end result is much the same.



-Nathanael Bettridge





*From:* Mailing Lists <lists at dreamboat.id.au>
*Sent:* Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
*To:* Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au>
*Cc:* adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com>; ausnog at ausnog.net
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All,



There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the
building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go
through it.



Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account
managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.



Cheers,

Damien.



On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <
nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:

Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59
Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re
exiting the business entirely.



-Nathanael Bettridge



*From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of* adam brzovic
*Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
*To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
*Subject:* [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus
datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months
on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers
and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do
not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new
provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone
which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers
to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer
to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all
the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street
datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small
customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator

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From jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au  Thu Apr 15 14:06:21 2021
From: jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au (Jared Hirst)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 04:06:21 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing
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I have no issues with it... I am not there, I moved out years ago... I think the issue is that there is a lack of communication for clients in there. We have moved and closed sites recently due to operational issues, so this is fine with me.

I have spoken to 2 customers in Doody Street who were not aware of this, and only found out because I asked them what they thought of it, although some people have told me that they were told. So guess it?s luck of the draw.

55 King is 100% a DA issue, but curious to know what the Doody Street one is and why people had no notice.


[https://info.serversaustralia.com.au/hubfs/Brand-2018/logo-font-sau.gif]
Jared Hirst
Chief Executive Officer
P: (02) 8115 8801
4 Amy Close, Wyong, NSW 2259
Need assistance? We are here 24/7 +61 2 8115 8888
[Sent from Front]
On 15 April 2021, 11:48 am AEST shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> wrote:


Guys, I don?t think this is the first time any organisation is reacting to change of circumstances or change of strategy.



Vocus like every other provider has full right to relocate customers or offer them to leave ? which is a sad thing for customers off course but if we are suggesting that no other company have ever done this then we are clearly being selective about what we choose to see.



Obviously every customer deserves the right to be notified and helped to most extent when any of their services are going to be affected. But again, we don?t know if none of the customers have been notified or some or maybe there is some other strategy/solution that Vocus might have for customers going to be impacted. I know as a fact that ?some? other customer were well aware of the 55 King shutting since November as those customers are moving their colo to us. So its unfair to blame the whole organisation without knowing the full facts.

  *   Again if we are claiming that every provider in the market is perfect in everything they do and how they handle changes/outages, I think we are being delusional.



Regarding Vocus trying to offload its DC in 2017 ? its not the first nor the last time a business chooses to do something of that nature. I have been personally involved in many discussions around providers offloading DCs or small space or cages (Pipe, AAPT, Telstra, Vocus and many other ?Service providers? moving out of GS) to name a few and impacted customers in every occasions disappointed with the situation. However that is what I have seen as a norm in last 15 years and I don?t think it will change in future.



I am sure we all thrive to deliver best services to our customers and obviously we expect the best from our providers ? but beating someone over without knowing full facts is unfair to say the least. I guess we will see in a few weeks/months about what happens with 55 King St.



p.s. the link to the article was provided by Nick as DA as evidence was requested to prove the claim of knockdown vs conspiracy.



Best regards,

Shah Hardik

Director

Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366

Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009

Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> | www.techflow.com.au<http://www.techflow.com.au/>



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Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:08 AM
To: James Murphy <jamesmurphyau at me.com<mailto:jamesmurphyau at me.com>>; Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net<mailto:nick at npratley.net>>
Cc: damien at vocus.com.au<mailto:damien at vocus.com.au>; Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>>; AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>>; adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com<mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



100% as I said they need to close those sites, but I can?t find a reason for Doody St. Seems that?s just been tagged onto the 55 King St reason.



Just terrible that no one got notice and it was announced here :(



[https://info.serversaustralia.com.au/hubfs/Brand-2018/logo-font-sau.gif]
Jared Hirst
Chief Executive Officer
P: (02) 8115 8801
4 Amy Close, Wyong, NSW 2259
Need assistance? We are here 24/7 +61 2 8115 8888



On 14 April 2021, 9:57 pm AEST jamesmurphyau at me.com<mailto:jamesmurphyau at me.com> wrote:



I don't think anyone is disputing the fact its the truth (are they?) - I think people are more speculating the fact that it couldn't possibly be the truth if the first they are hearing about it is on a mailing list (rather than from their account manager)



It seems like - as bad as that would be - that's exactly what has happened.. And if Vocus is remaining in any type of Telecommunication business after exiting the Datacenter business, they're going to have to offer some ridiculously cheap prices or suck some major ass after this (now public) major ball drop ..



People (well, definitely me) are reading this email thread wondering how on earth people are really only finding out about these data centre plans via a mailing list or by finding a lost email in their spam folder?!?



We just left 55 King over the past two weeks - so I'm glad we weren't as unlucky as others.. But if we were just finding out about this after reading this email thread, I'm sure my boss would be loosing it





On 14 Apr 2021, at 9:55 pm, Nick Pratley <nick at npratley.net<mailto:nick at npratley.net>> wrote:



Seems legit...

https://www.realestatesource.com.au/charter-halls-1-5-billion-two-tower-melbourne-cbd-office-complex-approved/

Charter Hall seem to want to knock the building down.

On 14 Apr 2021, 9:34 PM +1000, Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au<mailto:jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>>, wrote:

Link the DA / Plan for the sites then if it's a co-incidence? Vocus tried to offload the business in 2017 and couldn't.



"

Vocus also confirmed it had appointed advisors to sell off its Australian data centre assets. Vocus operates 20 data centres in Australia, which were valued at $160 million by Macquarie analysts in May, according to a report in the Australian Financial Review.<https://t.sidekickopen87.com/s3t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7kv8bNNrKW5bQGGY2zGCwVW8Jbw_863BfPzN3MxYkMQZtMvW4XXTDW16gGBmf8DLq8G01?te=W3R5hFj26QkHmW4mKDsS3M7fxBW43T4P74fM_pZW4fdh-y3ZXDkcW3z8nP93zgDbpW1GHd3R4cfLZhW3_RwhR4cfM1WW1GJVrJ4hLTtkW49PHnM4cfL3wW4fDRqL3K78h0W3K96pn1N4KgnW1YZ0ZG3P7BwW39CN2&si=5046652182331392&pi=4f0743e2-ba4a-4f60-82f6-e24e87695652> Vocus made $46.5 million from its data centre business in FY17, down from $50 million the previous financial year.

The company said it would continue to evaluate its other non-core Australian assets for a potential sale, and that it had received further approaches for potential acquisitions since announcing the asset review in August."



Sounds 100% like a shut down is happening. Which I think is a great idea, the Doody street site and 55 King are both terrible sites, but they should be open about it if that is the truth.



- Jared





On April 13, 2021, 4:27 PM GMT+10 nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:

Unless there?s a replacement planned (particularly one planned to open before the existing one closes), I?m not sure whether it really matters whether there was an external or internal motivation for the change, the end result is much the same.



-Nathanael Bettridge





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Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:08 AM
To: Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>>
Cc: adam brzovic <brzovicadam at gmail.com<mailto:brzovicadam at gmail.com>>; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All,



There is no grand conspiracy here. 55 King is being knocked down by the building owner for a bigger tower, 59 Doody has a road planned to go through it.



Certainly we could do better with notifications and I'm sure your account managers would love to hear feedback on how we can improve.



Cheers,

Damien.



On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:41 AM Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au<mailto:nathanael at prodigy.com.au>> wrote:

Our account manager just advised (after we had to ask first) that the 59 Doody St NSW DC is closing November 2022 as well, so looks like they?re exiting the business entirely.



-Nathanael Bettridge



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of adam brzovic
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 6:30 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Melbourne Primus/Vocus datacenter at 55 King closing



Hi All

I have just found an email lost in my spam folder than the Melbourne Primus datacenter at 55 King Street operated by Vocus is closing down in 4 months on the 1st of August 2021.

I know this is an old datacentre but every time I visit its full of servers and has been very stable since they had power issues 10 years ago so I do not understand why its closing down and now the headache of finding a new provider and moving our servers with only four months notice.

I have had no contact from our account manager, no phone call from anyone which is disappointing and no option provided by Vocus to move our servers to a new location.

Surely if you are actually going to close down a datacenter you would offer to move your customers to a new location free of charge and how about all the network and fiber providers in this location what will happen to them.

Has anyone else received notification that the Primus 55 King Street datacenter is closing down or are they just trying to get rid small customers.

Thanks

Adam ? CCNP Senior Network & Systems Administrator

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From wehttamw at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 09:09:53 2021
From: wehttamw at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:09:53 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Cannot view Mailing Lists
Message-ID: <CAL46EEbU+A2UAaLwA2V=KXRLmyLuXzHAvwNO41TXcWRZ7KtX3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys
I might not of setup the ausnog  mailing list correctly
can you please assist?
Regards
Matthew Wilson
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From graham at maltby.id.au  Thu Apr 22 11:50:50 2021
From: graham at maltby.id.au (Graham Maltby)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:50:50 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] L2TP Forwarder
Message-ID: <6a075716-03bb-02f9-0e2b-d2a14daae007@maltby.id.au>

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone suggest or even know of an open source solution to sit 
between LAC and LNS and forward sessions based on username. Think a 
conditional L2TP load balancer?

Thanks,
Graham

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From paul at paulbaker.id.au  Thu Apr 22 11:55:40 2021
From: paul at paulbaker.id.au (=?UTF-8?Q?Paul_Baker?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 01:55:40 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] L2TP Forwarder
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References: <6a075716-03bb-02f9-0e2b-d2a14daae007@maltby.id.au> 
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http://mpd.sourceforge.net/ <http://mpd.sourceforge.net/> ?FreeBSD only which might turn some off, but I found it the most configurable and flexible.

On 22 Apr 2021, at 11:50 am, Graham Maltby <graham at maltby.id.au <mailto:graham at maltby.id.au> > wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone suggest or even know of an open source solution to sit between LAC and LNS and forward sessions based on username. Think a conditional L2TP load balancer?

Thanks,
Graham

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From ross at eve-it.net  Fri Apr 30 13:44:04 2021
From: ross at eve-it.net (Ross [Eve IT])
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 13:44:04 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] looking for a small hosting provider to take over a few of
	my clients
Message-ID: <CAODA=KH+ea06rw5VDWRN9yxH8oTtq=0TJJ+ovFsF-J5rQ0hrOg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello peoples,

I'm in the process of winding up my small business (due to personal
reasons) and have about 3 clients with some basic Wordpress sites who need
a new home.
If anyone is looking at taking on some new clients, they are small, quiet
and pay on time, please send me a message offlist.
Also, a couple of 1300 numbers will need to be ported.

Regards,
Ross.
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