[AusNOG] Swap Beer for Doubling/Tripling Included CVC

Robert Hudson hudrob at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 17:31:43 EST 2020

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 17:13, Troy Baird <halo779 at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are options for cost effective smaller 10g fanless switches that are
> perfect for this situation....
> Ones coming to my place in May...

I was using a Baby Brocade (ICX 6450 I think it was) in a previous job that
would have been ideal in such a circumstance...

> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, 7:02 pm Tony Wicks, <tony at wicks.co.nz> wrote:
>> >Sorry from uneducated understanding but how practical would have fibre
>> to the home end-to-end across the country really been? I'm sure this is
>> something Bevan might understand with his experience truck rolling fibre
>> installs. But surely backhoe->ing the whole country is a nice idea in
>> theory but surely this would have never scaled/taken a long time/cost a lot
>> of money?
>> Actually glance about 2000km to the East and you will se how practical
>> and successfully it can be done. In the FTTH rollout in NZ is only a few
>> years from completion, it now moving down to the towns of 2000 houses size
>> (yes a house in a tiny little town can get gigabit FTTH). Its pretty simple
>> really, where power is overhead so is the fibre. I have a nice 1G/0.5G
>> service at home (retail about $90AU/mth) and 2G/2G &4G/4G are rolling out
>> by mid year. If there is sufficient will and force removing companies
>> trying to clip the ticket on the way by then its very practical. The really
>> funny thing is a significant amount of the dwelling
>> penetration/installation is actually being done by an Australian contract
>> company (visionstream). Cities in NZ are built pretty much the same way as
>> in Australia, the whole its too hard to do all the house penetrations has
>> comprehensively been proved to be absolute rubbish (the excuse of Australia
>> being bigger and harder is bolloks, the bulk of the cost is in the
>> penetration and this is almost identical). The difference between the way
>> it’s been successfully done in NZ and not in Australia is the Government
>> plaid hardball with Telecom NZ (power companies got the contracts in
>> several areas) and they split into two companies (Chorus, the lines company
>> and Spark the retail service provider). In Australia the government did
>> nothing that might upset Telstra shareholder value, and that’s how you get
>> NBN.
>> Hmm, do I upgrade my home connection to 4G, the problem is my 10G switch
>> is pretty noisy and I don’t think the missus would like it running all the
>> time…. What an issue to grapple with…
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