[AusNOG] Risks to country and business infrastructure

Dave Fairbairn dave at dpcomputing.com.au
Wed Sep 11 09:48:22 EST 2019

Wouldn’t it be more realistic for someone to sneak in an EMP inside a server case?

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Chris Macko
Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2019 1:15 PM
To: Phillip Grasso <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>
Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Risks to country and business infrastructure

Hi Phillip

Thanks for that, from memory I already reached out to them the last time I mentioned this issue but I’ll try again.

Have a good day.


On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 10:22 am, Phillip Grasso <phillip.grasso at gmail.com<mailto:phillip.grasso at gmail.com>> wrote:
suggest you work with The National Security Hotline (NSH) 1800 123 400. I think that might be a better direction for your msg.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 20:15, Chris Macko <chrismackozdell at gmail.com<mailto:chrismackozdell at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Mark,

You do realise how easy it is to get ammonium nitrate in WA goldfields and even easier on Australian Opal fields? Not even requirements for cctv from governance bodies for storage locations so completely lack of regard for explosives security in that area exposed.

Matey pull your finger maybe the little pinky and start taking this seriously. I’d hate for our stock market to take a crash just because China wanted a bit of backlash against us and America and found a gap within our technology layer on this front.

Now wouldn’t that be an easy way to take control of our country? Forget about weapons of mass destruction one risk toppling all corporations in one foul swoop.

No words from ASX lads? Or don’t they tune in to tech related network operators groups. Beware I’m sure that our Chinese friends are making calls right this instant as a result of these troubling factors.

Christopher-Edward Macko

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 9:21 am, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org<mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:

On 5 Sep 2019, at 11:55 PM, Chris Macko <chrismackozdell at gmail.com<mailto:chrismackozdell at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Examples of this include TIA942 and the Uptime Institute specs requiring bullet proof glass yet no one has a procedure to stop 1kg let alone 100kg of servers filled with explosives from entering our data centres disguised as normal server equipment within fully racks brought in by clients during colo moves.

That’s a bit of a movie-plot threat, though.

If an adversary has reached the point where that’s a sensible tack for them to take, I’m going to offer that nothing your company does is going to be capable of stopping them because your imagination is unlikely to be as good as theirs, and we’re well into the realm of heavy law enforcement or light military response.

I expect that most of this community’s denizens will find that they’re protected from this (supposed) threat by being in multiple locations in any case. Unless you’re going to up the movie plot stakes by saying the adversary is in all of them at the same time.

(Can I also point out that the threat posed by smuggled explosives is indistinguishable from the threat posed by earthquake, flood, or fire, and companies with business continuity plans capable of withstanding completely predictable natural disasters have no need to invest additional stress into dealing with the next Die Hard sequel? You’re either prepared or you aren’t; And everyone already knows how to prepare, they just differ in how much they want to spend doing it)

  - mark

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