[AusNOG] Risks to country and business infrastructure

Phillip Grasso phillip.grasso at gmail.com
Tue Sep 10 12:22:33 EST 2019

suggest you work with The National Security Hotline (NSH) 1800 123 400. I
think that might be a better direction for your msg.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 20:15, Chris Macko <chrismackozdell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> You do realise how easy it is to get ammonium nitrate in WA goldfields and
> even easier on Australian Opal fields? Not even requirements for cctv from
> governance bodies for storage locations so completely lack of regard for
> explosives security in that area exposed.
> Matey pull your finger maybe the little pinky and start taking this
> seriously. I’d hate for our stock market to take a crash just because China
> wanted a bit of backlash against us and America and found a gap within our
> technology layer on this front.
> Now wouldn’t that be an easy way to take control of our country? Forget
> about weapons of mass destruction one risk toppling all corporations in one
> foul swoop.
> No words from ASX lads? Or don’t they tune in to tech related network
> operators groups. Beware I’m sure that our Chinese friends are making calls
> right this instant as a result of these troubling factors.
> Christopher-Edward Macko
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 9:21 am, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>> On 5 Sep 2019, at 11:55 PM, Chris Macko <chrismackozdell at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Examples of this include TIA942 and the Uptime Institute specs
>> requiring bullet proof glass yet no one has a procedure to stop 1kg let
>> alone 100kg of servers filled with explosives from entering our data
>> centres disguised as normal server equipment within fully racks brought in
>> by clients during colo moves.
>> That’s a bit of a movie-plot threat, though.
>> If an adversary has reached the point where that’s a sensible tack for
>> them to take, I’m going to offer that nothing your company does is going to
>> be capable of stopping them because your imagination is unlikely to be as
>> good as theirs, and we’re well into the realm of heavy law enforcement or
>> light military response.
>> I expect that most of this community’s denizens will find that they’re
>> protected from this (supposed) threat by being in multiple locations in any
>> case. Unless you’re going to up the movie plot stakes by saying the
>> adversary is in all of them at the same time.
>> (Can I also point out that the threat posed by smuggled explosives is
>> indistinguishable from the threat posed by earthquake, flood, or fire, and
>> companies with business continuity plans capable of withstanding completely
>> predictable natural disasters have no need to invest additional stress into
>> dealing with the next Die Hard sequel? You’re either prepared or you
>> aren’t; And everyone already knows how to prepare, they just differ in how
>> much they want to spend doing it)
>>   - mark
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