[AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

[Jared Hirst]

Or just block all traffic from the OP's network ;)

Jared Hirst

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On October 13, 2019, 8:00 PM GMT+11 nathan.brookfield at simtronic.com.au<mailto:nathan.brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:

I was thinking, just blackhole all traffic for prefixes originated from AS1221, that would solve the issue!


Kindest Regards,

Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)


On 13 Oct 2019, at 19:52, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com<mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com>> wrote:


Based on the tone of the thread he may as well block Netflix as they are using the network to get videos, smtp to non Aussie online customers and sip to non Aussie online servers. While at it block calls from those sip servers to non customers.

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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Mark Delany <g2x at juliet.emu.st<mailto:g2x at juliet.emu.st>>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

On 13Oct19, Jonathan Brewer allegedly wrote:

> Calls will still work, but it might make Telstra uncomfortable
> enough that they want to negotiate.

There are four assumptions here that I'm not sure are valid.

The first is that the affected customers will blame Telstra. How do
you know this will occur? The affected customers may well determine
that they only get crappy performance with Ozonline and they get great
performance on their mate's wifi which is connected to a competitor
ISP. If I were confronted with such evidence I might first suspect
Ozonline of running a second-rate network.

The second assumption is that Telstra will notice. How do you know
this will occur? Do you think they have AI-driven support systems
which can correlate a few random complaints about wifi calling with a
particular ISP? If multiple ISPs adopt the same degradation approach
even real AI would find correlation difficult yet alone the fake AI we
have today.

The third assumption is that based on the strange traffic flow Telstra
will deduce that it is a subtle signal from an ISP wishing to initiate
a back-door peering agreement rather than just a poorly run ISP
network. What makes you think Telstra will make such a deduction?

The final assumption is that on making all these correlations and
deductions, Telstra will care enough about a few of their customers
suffering such that they will drop their decades-long staunch
opposition to peering with anyone inside Australia. Good luck with
that one my little flower.


Mark.
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