[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill
paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 15 11:45:34 EST 2018
Submission from BSA | The Software Alliance (BSA),
BSA’s members include: Adobe, Amazon Web Services, ANSYS, Apple, Autodesk,
AVEVA, Baseplan Software, Bentley Systems, Box, CA Technologies, Cad
Pacific/Power Space, Cad Pacific, Cisco, CNC/Mastercam, DataStax,DocuSign,
IBM, Informatica, Intel, Mathworks, Microsoft, Okta, Oracle, PTC,
Salesforce, SAS Institute, Siemens PLM Software, Splunk, Symantec,
TrendMicro, Trimble Solutions Corporation, and Workday.
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 08:53, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:
> Governments have the power to pass any bill they want, and they can waive
> around any sovereign rights they want as well.
> It doesn't mean the bills will match reality.
> On 13/09/18 15:13, Paul Wilkins wrote:
> An enabler? I wish. The government is perfectly capable of passing the
> Assistance and Access Bill without my help.
> There's a compelling argument that encryption doesn't negate the sovereign
> right of the Crown to conduct wiretap surveillance subject to judicial
> writ. I recognise the need to extend judicial writ to the cyber domain. So
> do plenty of other people, inside and outside of government, so it's
> happening, regardless of the objections of hardline privacy advocates.
> I want this regime to be effective and implemented properly, with checks
> and balances consistent with a liberal democracy, and proportionate to the
> need for privacy. If I contribute to the process, it's to ensure a better
> outcome than had I stood idle and silent.
> Kind regards
> Paul Wilkins
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 12:58, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You realise you're being an enabler don't you?
>> On Thu., 13 Sep. 2018, 09:35 Paul Wilkins, <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
>>> If there were an equivalent to certificate transparency logs for our
>>> data retention laws and for these proposed technical assistance requests,
>>> you could be sure that they'd be used much more responsibly and sparingly.
>>> I like this idea, a lot.
>>> In my submission I raised the possibility of a single agency acting as a
>>> clearing house for judicial writs, and issuing per warrant SSL certificates
>>> to secure warrant data as part of the process. The idea to have them
>>> implement certificate transparency is excellent, and I'd support any
>>> representation to government urging them to resource such efforts. However,
>>> it's going to be a struggle, given where, if you've noticed, gov.au is not
>>> yet DNSSEC signed - which I find deliciously ironic, the government issuing
>>> itself new powers to protect our cyber security, while their whole TLD
>>> flaps in the breeze...
>>> Kind regards
>>> Paul Wilkins
>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 21:52, Paul Gear <ausnog at libertysys.com.au>
>>>> On 12/09/18 17:04, Mark Newton wrote:
>>>> > ...
>>>> > There is no democratic brake on the advancement of the intelligence
>>>> > community’s powers, they continue to do whatever the hell they want,
>>>> > with no recourse.
>>>> > ...
>>>> ^ This. Those in power continue to wield it in ways which benefit
>>>> themselves rather than all of us. I'm not sure what the entire solution
>>>> is, but part of it surely must include being open to scrutiny by the
>>>> general public. If there were an equivalent to certificate transparency
>>>> logs for our data retention laws and for these proposed technical
>>>> assistance requests, you could be sure that they'd be used much more
>>>> responsibly and sparingly.
>>>> I would also add that nor is there a brake on the advancement of Silicon
>>>> Valley's powers. Imagine if the same public (or near-public) scrutiny
>>>> were available for the decisions that large Internet, financial, and
>>>> advertising firms make about us...
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