[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

Phil Memery memery at clevernetit.com.au
Wed Sep 12 18:15:13 EST 2018


Just as an example of how "having the keys to decrypt things" can go wrong.

John Walker, Jr.

In 1967, Navy communications officer John Walker, Jr. snuck into the 
Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C., and offered to sell secrets. He then 
handed over settings for the KL-47 cipher machine, which decoded 
sensitive US Navy messages............ etc etc.. According to Vitaly 
Yurchenko, a KGB defector, “It was the greatest case in KGB history. We 
deciphered millions of your messages. If there had been a war, we would 
have won it.”

https://listverse.com/2010/07/04/top-10-traitors-in-us-history/


There are plenty of other examples of why NOT to allow this bill.

Regards



On 12/09/18 17:20, Paul Julian wrote:
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head Mark.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     I can't wait to see the full extent of responses. What I've seen
>     so far speaks of not just the quality and detail of submissions,
>     but the broad base of responses, ensuring representation of a
>     diversity of interests, and raising a broad range of concerns and
>     recommendations.
>
>     It's a strong vindication for the processes of representative
>     democracy that so many have taken the time to make a contribution.
>
> It isn’t “representative democracy” when the only reason the Govt is 
> pursuing this is because the Americans said they wanted it in a 5-eyes 
> meeting.
>
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/five-eyes-nations-to-force-encryption-backdoors-511865
>
> I think we can all expect the “broad range of concerns and 
> recommendations” to be ignored by the Government because they’re a 
> client State of the Americans and will bloody-well do what they’re 
> told, no matter what Australian voters say they want.
>
> They might make some amendments around the edges, but only in places 
> where doing so doesn’t erect any significant barrier in the way of 
> them doing what they’ve already decided they’re going to do.
>
> Then, in three years, they’ll come back and say they need to 
> “modernize Australia’s national security laws” (again) and undo the 
> amendments. Which is actually precisely what they’re doing now in 
> relation to the limits they placed on themselves three years ago 
> regarding data retention, if you’ll recall.
>
> It is a corruption of the democratic process, not an example of it 
> functioning properly. There is no democratic brake on the advancement 
> of the intelligence community’s powers, they continue to do whatever 
> the hell they want, with no recourse.
>
> Given the circumstances, it’s a bit naïve to suggest otherwise, don’t 
> you think?
>
>   - mark
>
>
>
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