[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

Jason Ross jason at ethisec.com.au
Tue Sep 4 09:04:22 EST 2018


A point of view you can possibly share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-OMR-iWOE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-OMR-iWOE>



> On 3 Sep 2018, at 2:57 pm, trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Chad Kelly wrote:
> 
>> On 9/3/2018 12:00 PM, ausnog-request at lists.ausnog.net wrote:
>> 
>>> The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access
>>> Bill, because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local
>>> presence. Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and
>>> you require a registered company to conduct business and to hold bank
>>> accounts. If you won't comply with assistance/capability notices, you won't
>>> be able to conduct business in Australia.
>> Yeah I'm not sure I particularly like how dam vague the wording of the 
>> bill is though.
>> We are heading more in the direction of places like Singapore and China 
>> with these bills and that isn't great for the industry.
>> Not sure we will be able to do much though as its a bit of a dammed if 
>> you do, dammed if you don't type situation, because on the one hand you 
>> don't want to be hosting abusive material on your networks / servers, 
>> but on the other hand, someone could impersonate a police officer and 
>> gain the equipment, Datacentres   are going to have to spend more time 
>> validating ID's and conducting manual checks which only means that 
>> prices will only increase as having extra security staff costs money.
>> As you don't want just anyone turning up with fake identities and 
>> grabbing hardware and having legit businesses shut down in the process 
>> particularly if its a shared hosting server.
>> With this new bill, something like the following could easily happen 
>> hear in Au http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1716143 its a 
>> bit of a worry.
> 
> And all the five eyes are saying they want this now:
> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/five-eyes-nations-to-force-encryption-backdoors-511865 <https://www.itnews.com.au/news/five-eyes-nations-to-force-encryption-backdoors-511865>
> 
> Telegram remains outside US control, not sure about Signal but they and 
> Facebook would resist any attempt to break e2e encryption (Facebook 
> already is https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/08/dont-shoot-messenger <https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/08/dont-shoot-messenger> )
> 
> As for a good use of these technologies, let me refer you to this tweet: 
> https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/status/1036215115442540550 <https://twitter.com/RealHughJackman/status/1036215115442540550>
> 
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