[AusNOG] *** STOP THREAD *** Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

Mark Smith markzzzsmith at gmail.com
Mon Oct 1 13:44:18 EST 2018


What needs to be further discussed? How is there any ambiguity?

This harassment is wrong regardless of when and where it occurs.


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 13:05, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the fact that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to be on this list any more.
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> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling it to continue.
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> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded from the organisation. Period.
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> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of group AusNOG wants to be.
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> Regards,
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> Robert
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> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.
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>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they won't be interested.
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>> Kind regards
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>> Paul Wilkins
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>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
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>>> Bevan,
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>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate authorities.  The police are in the best position to deal with such allegations.   If I can be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly, off-list.
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>>> To the members of the list - I’m sure any of you would agree that any form of sexual harassment is not acceptable.   As such, there is no reason for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post.  There is nothing to debate here.  Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post.  Please see the list charter below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a STOP THREAD.
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>>> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
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>>> David
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