[AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)
Matt Richards
matt at shakesbeare.com
Wed May 16 08:53:51 EST 2018
That's not congestion at the IX, that's HE.net routing traffic back to
you (and me) via California. They're prefering my Vocus transit in SJC
over the shorter AS path in Sydney.
Try doing a traceroute from their Sydney router on http://lg.he.net
Matt.
On 16/05/2018 10:46 AM, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> From Internode there seems to be congestion at the exchange point:
>
> traceroute to tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net>
> (216.218.142.50), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
> 1 192.168.129.1 (192.168.129.1) 2.043 ms 2.373 ms 1.887 ms
> 2 lo0.bras1.syd2.on.ii.net <http://lo0.bras1.syd2.on.ii.net>
> (150.101.32.61) 30.334 ms 31.081 ms 30.884 ms
> 3 be1.cr2.syd2.on.ii.net <http://be1.cr2.syd2.on.ii.net>
> (150.101.197.80) 54.951 ms 30.238 ms 31.129 ms
> 4 be51.cr2.syd7.on.ii.net <http://be51.cr2.syd7.on.ii.net>
> (150.101.40.242) 31.842 ms 31.422 ms 33.403 ms
> 5 ae6.cr2.syd4.on.ii.net <http://ae6.cr2.syd4.on.ii.net>
> (150.101.41.124) 31.041 ms 31.468 ms 32.887 ms
> 6 6939.syd.equinix.com <http://6939.syd.equinix.com> (45.127.173.24)
> 181.514 ms 181.298 ms 179.775 ms
> 7 tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net> (216.218.142.50)
> 180.816 ms 180.744 ms 181.266 ms
>
> (I don't even understand why I need to investigate this as it's more
> than 10 years ago since I got native IPv6 on my ADSL and can't think
> of a reason besides that nobody providing NBN/FTTC will support it.
> Welcome back to early 2000's)
>
> Edwin
>
>
> On 16 May 2018 at 07:22, Cameron Murray <cameron.murray at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.murray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Looks to be in Sydney for us:
>
> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net>
> [216.218.142.50]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 3 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 103.17.253.22
> 4 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au
> <http://as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au> [218.100.52.249]
> 5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net
> <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net> [216.218.142.50]
>
> Trace complete.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:19 PM, andrew khoo
> <andrew.khoo at as136019.net <mailto:andrew.khoo at as136019.net>> wrote:
>
> to confirm, i am tracing from a box in a he.net
> <http://he.net> colo and it's going to australia:
>
> as7175-sjc>traceroute 216.218.142.50
> traceroute to 216.218.142.50 (216.218.142.50), 30 hops max, 60
> byte packets
> 1 v1882.core2.fmt2.he.net <http://v1882.core2.fmt2.he.net>
> (65.19.156.125) 10.773 ms 0.234 ms 0.374 ms
> 2 10ge6-16.core4.fmt2.he.net
> <http://10ge6-16.core4.fmt2.he.net> (184.105.213.189) 0.768
> ms 0.849 ms 0.319 ms
> 3 100ge10-1.core1.sjc1.he.net
> <http://100ge10-1.core1.sjc1.he.net> (184.105.80.193) 0.552
> ms 0.594 ms 0.652 ms
> 4 10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net
> <http://10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net> (184.105.222.86) 146.522
> ms 146.509 ms 146.462 ms
> 5 tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net>
> (216.218.142.50) 146.303 ms 146.311 ms 146.285 ms
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Gavin Tweedie
> <gavin.tweedie at megaport.com
> <mailto:gavin.tweedie at megaport.com>> wrote:
>
> TPG buys transit from HE /in the US/ so routing via the US
> is expected, twice.
> TPG SYD -> TPG SJC -> HE SJC -> HE SYD -> HE SJC -> TPG
> SJC -> TPG SYD
>
> Yours looks like it's staying in Sydney on the way there,
> and coming back via the US I agree.. You don't have any
> indications in your traceroute what your source ASN is,
> but I'm going to guess that your ASN buys transit from HE,
> or someone who buys from HE would that be right?
>
> Hurricane do have a LG @ https://lg.he.net/ which might
> help you work out the reverse path.
>
> Gav
>
> On Tue, 15 May 2018 at 16:07, Christopher Hawker
> <me at chrishawker.com.au <mailto:me at chrishawker.com.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I've seen that HE now supposedly run a IPv6 Tunnel
> Server in Sydney, although I have doubts as to it's
> location after a few traceroutes. This is from SY4 via
> NSW-IX:
>
>
> default.master at cr1:~$ traceroute 216.218.142.50
> traceroute to 216.218.142.50 (216.218.142.50), 30 hops
> max, 38 byte packets
> 1 upstream.carrier (192.0.2.254) 0.183 ms 0.123 ms
> 0.108 ms
> 2 as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au <http://as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au>
> (218.100.52.249) 150.979 ms 152.368 ms 150.857 ms
> 3 tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net>
> (216.218.142.50) 150.751 ms 150.839 ms 150.755 ms
>
> However, this trace is from an AAPT NBN HFC service:
>
>
> C:\Users\default.master>tracert 216.218.142.50
> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net
> <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net> [216.218.142.50]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.10.254
> 2 * * * Request timed out.
> 3 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms
> po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au
> <http://po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au> [202.10.14.198]
> 4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms
> syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au
> <http://syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au>
> [203.219.107.197]
> 5 10 ms 15 ms 14 ms
> 203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au
> <http://203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au> [203.29.134.67]
> 6 173 ms 170 ms 162 ms
> 100ge13-1.core1.sjc1.he.net
> <http://100ge13-1.core1.sjc1.he.net> [216.218.139.233]
> 7 308 ms 311 ms 308 ms
> 10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net
> <http://10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net> [184.105.222.86]
> 8 309 ms 309 ms 309 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net
> <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net> [216.218.142.50]
> Trace complete.
>
> The first trace looks like it is going over to the US
> (based on the latency), however the second looks like
> it is going to the US and back. Anyone else seen
> anything like this? If there are any HE techs on list,
> I'd appreciate it if they could please contact me
> off-list.
>
>
> CH.
>
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