[AusNOG] NBN & Indirect rsps

Nathan Brookfield Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au
Thu Jan 11 12:08:23 EST 2018


I don’t think you will see the discounts on AAPT and other Wholesalers, this article is helpful: http://www.smh.com.au/business/nbn-discounts-slammed-for-pricing-out-small-telcos-20180110-p4yyde.html

It’s my understanding that NBN had specific requirements for RSP’s to gain the discount and this ade it difficult for aggregators to participate, good old NBN….

Kindest Regards,
Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jacob Bisby
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To: 'Joe Saxton' <Joe.Saxton at workforce.com.au>; 'Matthew Enger' <m.enger at xi.com.au>; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN & Indirect rsps

Their reputation took a very heavy hit during their migration from AAPT L3-NWB to Vocus Wholesale (I believe it didn’t go very smoothly), judging from the general feedback I’ve seen they may have lost a significant amount of customers and are perhaps loss-leading to get the numbers back up.

Easy to do if you can afford to haemorrhage the cash I guess…




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Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 9:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN & Indirect rsps

I did notice that, considering that there plans are month to month I wonder how many customers would stick around once the price jumps to $49/mth.
Why bother selling 12/1 if there is zero to very minimal profit gains. Maybe it’s a marketing play to attract customers, I don’t know. Maybe we will see on the back of buses and bus stops “Unlimited NBN for $19/month!”

From: Matthew Enger [mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:43 AM
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Subject: Re: NBN & Indirect rsps

I believe NBNco sells a 12M port for $24 ex gst, so to be selling it at $19, they are making a loss before the service has any data.

It is only a discount for first 12 months, I think they hope to upsell customers to higher port speeds.




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From: Joe Saxton <Joe.Saxton at workforce.com.au<mailto:Joe.Saxton at workforce.com.au>>
Date: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 9:26 am
To: Matthew Enger <m.enger at xi.com.au<mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au>>, "ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>" <ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>>
Subject: RE: NBN & Indirect rsps

I’m seeing Buzz Telco selling 12/1 unlimited for $19 p/m and $39 for 50/20. I’d imagine CVC/customer ratios would be quite high.



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