[AusNOG] Is there such thing as peering with Telstra in Australia

Alex Samad alex at samad.com.au
Fri Mar 3 09:09:50 EST 2017


Has any one thought of challenging that now that there has been a change /
enough time has passed ?

Alex

On 2 March 2017 at 16:14, James Andrewartha <trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Paul Holmanskikh wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to peer with Telsta AS1221 within Australia? They are
> not
> > present on any IX in Australia. But it seems the only way to peer with
> Telstra
> > is to buy transit from them.But transit from Telstra costs absolutely
> insane
> > money. I'm looking for peering because Telstra's customers generates good
> > amount of traffic on our transit links.
>
> No. Since you're not a member of the Gang of Four, Telstra has no
> obligation or desire to peer with you (or anyone else). Some history:
>
> http://blog.internode.on.net/2011/05/16/peering-policy-gaps-nbn/
>
> "Historically, the ACCC recognised this problem in 1998 and took
> enforcement action to require peering between IP networks. However, the
> determination made at the time was fatally flawed. The ACCC decided
> (incorrectly) at the time that the (then) dominant four players had to
> peer – but no requirement was placed upon those four to peer with anyone
> else, ever. All subsequent requests and attempts to peer with Telstra and
> Optus since then have been rejected by those network providers."
>
> See also https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/
>
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