[AusNOG] The shape of DDoS to come

Nick Stallman nick at agentpoint.com
Thu Oct 27 11:45:35 EST 2016


Yes there is.
There are a few keywords to focus on however.

Like 'part'. Technically if just a single IoT device was part of the 
attack then the media will say it was a IoT attack.

And 'device'. If you start calling security DVR's IoT devices (arguably 
they aren't, they are a server) then yep a few thousand of them took part.

I could be wrong but my impression was the bulk was traditional DDoS and 
not mostly IoT.

On 27/10/16 11:17, Peter Tiggerdine wrote:
> Is there any evidence to suggest that IoT devices played a part on 
> this DDoS? My understanding is we're still dealing with the same 
> problem as ever; unpatched/secured desktops/routers/switches which 
> when you consider how accessible large amounts of bandwidth is explain 
> the increase in DDoS size.
>
> Most IoT devices don't enough CPU power to contribute more than 1K 
> sustained. Doesn't mean there's not alot to be done in the security 
> space with IoT, just means there's better targets with greater return.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Tiggerdine
>
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> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, mike at thebibers.com 
> <mailto:mike at thebibers.com> <mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au 
> <mailto:mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     IPv6 with mandatory IPsec Authentication through filtering engines?
>
>     Michael Biber
>     IPv6Now
>     6now.net <http://6now.net>
>     0412058808 <tel:0412058808>
>
>
>     On 27 Oct 2016 10:03 AM, "Paul Wilkins" <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         After Mirai's 1.2Tbps, which is pretty much unmitigateable,
>         perhaps time for the industry to realise that IoT means we've
>         arrived at a new age of DDoS. If this is the shape of things
>         to come, where do we go from here?
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Paul Wilkins
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