[AusNOG] 10GbE Switching Options

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Fri Jul 1 12:03:53 EST 2016


I would be nervous about anything Arista at the moment as Cisco bitch slaps
them in court and wins.

This is only a few hours ago:
http://www.eweek.com/networking/arista-ceo-pens-letter-to-customers-in-wake-of-cisco-patent-decision.html

I wonder what tech they will take out of EOS to make them happy.

NEXTDC's AXONVX was fully built on Arista - which I would be nervous about
from a strategic vendor relationship perspective and I would be
diversifying my vendor options as fast as I could, but I designed it that
way, so it shouldn't have an issue, especially since Cumulus has stepped up
recently.




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On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Claudiu Claudiu <auclaudiu at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can't comment on price if that was the question,
> But Arista is quite popular in the DC space. Unmodified linux /extensible
> via RPMs, CLI.
> Programmable (Puppet, Ansible /  Python, Go natively supported), HW VXLAN,
> mature L2/L3/Multicast stack, integration to VMware, Openstack etc.
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Alex Samad <alex at samad.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> How do arista rate v's the mellanox ?
>>
>> A
>>
>> On 1 July 2016 at 10:53, Claudiu Claudiu <auclaudiu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > What about Arista?
>> >
>> > Arista 7050SX-64
>> >
>> https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7050SX-128_64_Datasheet.pdf
>> >
>> > Or Arista 7280R - deep buffer platforms 10/25/40/50/100G (allow entire
>> > internet routing table in FIB, 1RU/2RU form factor):
>> > https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7280R-DataSheet.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Alex Huntington
>> > <Alex.Huntington at iriworldwide.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Guys!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback
>> >> around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each
>> server
>> >> has 6 10GbE NICs of which two are dedicated iSCSI that will run
>> through this
>> >> fabric.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with
>> 10GbE
>> >> but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been
>> rules
>> >> out due do cable management issues (don’t ask :/).
>> >>
>> >> It would be nice to also standardise for our core also so routing is a
>> >> “nice to have” but not a requirement.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If we could get some decent or support 3rd party SFP+ modules for a
>> good
>> >> price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but
>> never
>> >> used the Startech or Netgear SFPs before & I’d like to avoid the vendor
>> >> finger pointing games.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We are looking at the following
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dell S4048-ON
>> >>
>> >> Pros:
>> >>
>> >> -          Cheap $60 SFP+
>> >>
>> >> -          Cheapest switch cost by 20-30%
>> >>
>> >> -          All in one (no port or IP/routing licences required)
>> >>
>> >> Cons:
>> >>
>> >> -          Different CLI in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brocade VDX 6490
>> >>
>> >> Pros:
>> >>
>> >> -          ISCLI
>> >>
>> >> -          Vendor reputation
>> >>
>> >> Cons
>> >>
>> >> -          SFP+ price $300+
>> >>
>> >> -          Cost of additional port licences  e.g. 24-48 port on demand
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cisco Nexus 3000/9000
>> >>
>> >> Pros:
>> >>
>> >> -          Community support & KB/documentation
>> >>
>> >> -          Vendor reputation
>> >>
>> >> -          Standardise vendor with all other network gear
>> >>
>> >> Cons:
>> >>
>> >> -          SFP+ $1500+
>> >>
>> >> -          IP Lite licence costs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I’d love to hear your thoughts or experience, as I’m sure I’ve missed a
>> >> few things!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheeeeeers,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >>
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