[AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules

Jay Dixon jaybobo at gmail.com
Mon Dec 19 10:22:50 EST 2016


i love that the byproduct of this court case is a comprehensive list of all
the good torrent sites and mirrors.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Chris Ford <chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au>
wrote:

> I've been following this here https://s115a.com/cases/current
>
> From my skim of the lists the respondents to the actions all roll up to
> Telstra, Optus, Vocus or TPG). I didn't see any independent ISPs listed. So
> unless you are a group company of the Big 4 you won’t be a recipient of the
> orders, and if you are, I'm sure you are already well aware of what is
> going on.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> Newton
> Sent: Friday, 16 December 2016 2:41 PM
> To: Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay,
> bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules
>
> On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
> >
> >> The Federal Court has ordered internet companies to block five
> copyright-infringing websites, including torrent website The Pirate Bay.
> >
> > So, the next questions are:
> > * who tells us ISPs officially, what we have to block?
>
> A court order.
>
> > * when do they tell us.
>
> After you have been named as a respondent in a Federal Court action, and
> been presented with an order.
>
> > * does it only apply to the big-few, or everyone?
>
> It applies to everyone who is named as a respondent in a Federal Court
> action under s115a and has subsequently received a court order.
>
> > * if the previous answer is "everyone", who do we bill,
> >   and do we have to "trust them" that it'll be paid, or can
> >   we just send them the bill and not do anything until it is?
>
> The previous answer isn’t “everyone.” You bill the claimant. The payment
> conditions will be in the court order.
>
> > The phrase "tilting at windmills" springs to mind.
>
> Yes, pointless exercise. Training Australians to use evasion methods; once
> they’re doing that, further enforcement action is ineffective, so driving
> them in that direction is practically indistinguishable from saying, “Meh,
> don’t care anymore.”
>
> The overwhelming response I’ve seen to yesterday’s action is, “LOL.” I’m
> encouraged by that.
>
>    - mark
>
>
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