[AusNOG] Data retention

[paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au]

LOL, after I read that Noel I saw the exact same rubbish, but I couldn’t be bothered saying anything in reply, the greens must be right J
 
Paul
 
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Noel Butler
Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2015 11:20 AM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Data retention
 
On 13/10/2015 08:22, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:
Most of my friends, mainly IT literate are thinking vpn. Not a good sampling for the general public.
 
But you have pollie's pushing VPN's and legal (!)  avoidance
http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/campaigns/stopdataretention#protect
 
Cant let a good story get in road of facts, MT was not the architect, Brandis was, I'm sure we all remember MT was on the outer with this until Abbott had him come in and clear up  their "selling the idea" mess.
as fort most of it, the data retention law hasnt changed anything, its been long well known Telco's have logged sms data and voice from-to-duration blah blah blah, Telstra and Optus  have those records for 7 years, and its been well known for many years they have, so why werent these advocates outraged 10, 15 years ago
 
now for the Tuesday funnies..
"the address you emailed, the size of the message, the file names of attachments, the file sizes of attachments, the time the message was sent, and your location,"
 
The address you emails - true
size of the message - true
file names of attachments - BULLSHIT (thats part of the "DATA" stage)
file sizes of attachments - BULLSHIT (only the total message size is logged)
the time the message was sent - clap clap - true
the location - sure, your IP address at the time - which could be traced back to your connection location, so we'll give him half a point there, but about 8/10 points for scare mungering,its something everybody has always done to deal with spam/abuse reports.
 
now for outright lies
"your IP address, your destination addresses*, your location, the time you connected to the web, the duration you connected to the web, and the volume of data exchanged."
 
the destination address is explicitly EXCLUDED..
your location, thats back to your IP address.
time connected to web - whoops more porkies - web access is not recorded,unless means what time you logged into your broadband service, half a point there, maybe.
the volume of data used half a point there, because they want you to keep the daily/monthly
data usages - which most customers expect to see anyway
 
I stopped reading at that point, because I'm recovering from a virus, and my tummy and throat was hurting too much form the laughter...
But like i said far be it from me to expect a pollie to be honest.
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