[AusNOG] Data retention

Noel Butler noel.butler at ausics.net
Tue Oct 13 11:19:44 EST 2015


 

On 13/10/2015 08:22, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote: 

> Most of my friends, mainly IT literate are thinking vpn. Not a good sampling for the general public. 
> 
> But you have pollie's pushing VPN's and legal (!)  avoidance 
> 
> http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/campaigns/stopdataretention#protect

Cant let a good story get in road of facts, MT was not the architect,
Brandis was, I'm sure we all remember MT was on the outer with this
until Abbott had him come in and clear up  their "selling the idea"
mess. 

as fort most of it, the data retention law hasnt changed anything, its
been long well known Telco's have logged sms data and voice
from-to-duration blah blah blah, Telstra and Optus  have those records
for 7 years, and its been well known for many years they have, so why
werent these advocates outraged 10, 15 years ago 

now for the Tuesday funnies.. 

"_the address you emailed, the size of the message, the file names of
attachments, the file sizes of attachments, the time the message was
sent, and your location,_" 

The address you emails - true 

size of the message - true 

file names of attachments - BULLSHIT (thats part of the "DATA" stage) 

file sizes of attachments - BULLSHIT (only the total message size is
logged) 

the time the message was sent - clap clap - true 

the location - sure, your IP address at the time - which could be traced
back to your connection location, so we'll give him half a point there,
but about 8/10 points for scare mungering,its something everybody has
always done to deal with spam/abuse reports. 

now for outright lies 

_"your IP address, your destination addresses*, your location, the time
you connected to the web, the duration you connected to the web, and the
volume of data exchanged._" 

the destination address is explicitly EXCLUDED.. 

your location, thats back to your IP address. 

time connected to web - whoops more porkies - web access is not
recorded,unless means what time you logged into your broadband service,
half a point there, maybe. 

the volume of data used half a point there, because they want you to
keep the daily/monthly 

data usages - which most customers expect to see anyway 

I stopped reading at that point, because I'm recovering from a virus,
and my tummy and throat was hurting too much form the laughter... 

But like i said far be it from me to expect a pollie to be honest. 
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