[AusNOG] VPN Virtual appliance recommendations

Tony td_miles at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 3 11:50:12 EST 2015


We use pfSense with OpenVPN authenticating users via RADIUS without any issues. 
      From: Jonathan Thorpe <jthorpe at Conexim.com.au>
 To: Ben Trigger <btrigger at livingnetworks.com.au>; "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2015, 10:27
 Subject: Re: [AusNOG] VPN Virtual appliance recommendations
   
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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]On Behalf Of Ben Trigger
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2015 10:51 AM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] VPN Virtual appliance recommendations    Hi All,    Just wondering if anyone has recommendations on a virtual appliance (VMWARE / Xen compatible) which can terminate xx000's of roaming clients. Hoping to support ipsec ikeV2 + openVPN. I've been looking at Vyatta, strongswan & openVPN server. Wondering if anyone has experience good or bad to share on these platforms? Or other recommendations?       Many Thanks, 
    --  Ben Trigger | LivingNetworks E: btrigger at livingnetworks.com.au  
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