[AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise

Damien Gardner Jnr rendrag at rendrag.net
Thu Mar 26 10:29:59 EST 2015


I'm not sure I'd totally agree there.  Even when the customers are
screaming for it, some ISP's just don't seem to be interested -  At $job-1
we had a bunch of EFM services for our .au offices through TPG.  .au was
the ONLY country we operated in where we had no v6.  I hassled our TPG
Account manager for 18 months, and always got back the same 'Sorry, IPv6 is
not on our roadmap at this time' response.

Cheers,

DG

On 26 March 2015 at 10:22, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <
kristoffer.sheather at cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:

> If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.
>
> When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be
> doing it.
>
> Thats the commercial and actual reality.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>
> *Sent*: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:15 AM
> *To*: "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org>
> *Cc*: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer
> Sheather" <kris at cloudcentral.com.au>
> *Subject*: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational
> exercise
>
> It's that 'for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device' that's
> the problem.  How many Aussie ISP's are actually doing V6 for customers?  I
> have (almost) every service on my network dual-stacked (one shared-hosting
> server is yet to be done), and 2% of my total bandwidth volume is v6.
> Would be curious to hear what others are seeing :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> DG
>
> On 26 March 2015 at 10:11, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In message <41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419 at cloudcentral.com.au>,
>> "Kristoffer Sheather @ C
>> loudCentral" writes:
>> >
>> > IPv6 won't go anywhere until IPv4 doesn't work anymore.  That day is not
>> > today despite the numerous arguments and flames I expect to receive
>> > subsequent to this message.
>> >
>> >   Regards,
>> > Kristoffer Sheather
>>
>> If you turn on IPv6 +50% of your traffic will shift to IPv6 immediately
>> for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device.  This is
>> *not* IPv6 going nowhere.
>>
>> The content providers are going IPv6-only internally translating
>> IPv4 to IPv6.
>>
>> If you ship CPE router make sure they are IPv6 capable.
>>
>> If you do not ship CPE routers provide a list of IPv6 capable routers
>> you are happy with.  IPv6 routers can be got for < $100 AUD.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Andrews, ISC
>> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
>> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka at isc.org
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>
>
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>
> Damien Gardner Jnr
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> rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
> --
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>  We ran to the sounds of thunder.
> We danced among the lightning bolts,
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Damien Gardner Jnr
VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
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We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
 We ran to the sounds of thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
 and tore the world asunder
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