[AusNOG] ICANN to bring an end to TLD privacy?

Shane Short shane at short.id.au
Sun Jun 28 11:45:43 EST 2015


+1
Couldn't have said it better myself. :)

Geordie Guy wrote:
>
> This is perpetuating the "nothing to hide" myth. Privacy is not about 
> being protected from any particular form of harassment such as spam, 
> it's about the details of the registration being nobody's goddamn 
> business.
>
> In particular, this is about this being round #2738 of rights holders 
> and other speculative legal action trolls being distressed about not 
> having information on tap they ordinarily need to follow due process for.
>
> Australian network operators and the wider technology community need 
> to learn what is actually a threat to the ability to operate networks 
> and services over the top of them. Spam is not a threat. Anonymity is 
> not a threat. Privacy is not a threat. Copyright trolls, the attorney 
> general and the TLAs are threats. Wise up.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:06 Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au 
> <mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     While I understand the desire for privacy, I'm not sure it is as
>     much of an issue in this case as people might think it is.
>
>     I've had a number of domain names registered to me with this email
>     address, my mobile number and my PO BOX(es) since 2002.
>
>     I do receive quite a lot of spam to this email address, but then
>     again I've been using it quite publicly for many years, including
>     on a number of public mailing lists and in open source code that
>     also gets published on web pages. So I can't attribute spam I've
>     received specifically to my domains' whois information.
>
>     I haven't had any issues with having my mobile number listed, and
>     I've had the same mobile number since 1995. On very rare occasions
>     I've received SMS spam, however I couldn't attribute that to my
>     whois details. Neither have I had any issues listing my PO BOX - I
>     can only think of a few pieces of mail I've received over the
>     years that I definitely could attribute to being sent because of
>     my whois information. I would recommend a PO BOX to hide where you
>     actually live though, if you're going to publish your mailing
>     address publicly (as I have done in a number of Internet Drafts).
>
>     It is my understanding that the existing "privacy" service that
>     registrars offer is achieved by them actually registering the
>     domain name in their name, and then letting you use it i.e., it
>     isn't actually your domain name, it is theirs. I think I read a
>     while ago about a dispute between a customer and a registrar,
>     where the registrar was in the wrong, but they wouldn't let the
>     customer have the domain and the customer couldn't get the domain
>     because it wasn't actually registered in their name.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Mark.
>
>     *From:* Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com <mailto:brad at bradpeczka.com>>
>     *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>"
>     <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2015, 15:39
>     *Subject:* [AusNOG] ICANN to bring an end to TLD privacy?
>
>     At the behest of organisations such as MarkMonitor, ICANN is
>     considering a policy change whereby domain holders with sites
>     associated to "commercial activity" will no longer be able to
>     protect their private information with WHOIS protection services.
>
>     The text of the proposal can be found on ICANN's website at
>     https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/raa/ppsai-initial-05may15-en.pdf
>
>     Something worth noting is that the definition of 'Commercial
>     Activity' appears to be quite wide, and will likely encompass a
>     number of sole/small traders who operate under their own name,
>     rather than a business. I personally feel that the auDA approach
>     hits the happy medium - protecting a large amount of information
>     from being publicly accessible, while still being able to see what
>     entity is in control of a domain name.
>
>     If you're interested in commenting, the close date for submissions
>     is 7th July... so get typing!
>
>     Regards,
>     -Brad.
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