[AusNOG] Zettagrid Sydney Offline

Chris Legg cdlegg at iinet.net.au
Wed Jun 24 15:27:27 EST 2015


The moon would be better than nothing, but in reality when the Earth is 
destroyed the moon probably won't be far behind it.
Stop penny-pinching and get proper redundancy by building a data centre 
on Alpha Centauri B!

On 24/06/2015 1:09 PM, Shane Short wrote:
> What about on different continents? There could be some kind of 
> catastrophic act of god that wipes out both facilities? Oh.. separate 
> hemispheres too, to protect you against freak storm events..
>
> Maybe we should co-lo on the moon too, incase there's some kind of 
> catastrophic earth event.. but even then we still have single point of 
> flares (SPoF) to contend with.. mmm
>
> At some point you play the odds. How many times has the aforementioned 
> "global fuckup" happened?
>
> Paul Brooks wrote:
>> On 24/06/2015 2:25 PM, Tim Raphael wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mark Newton 
>>> <newton at atdot.dotat.org <mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     If you aren't provider-diverse, you aren't diverse.
>>>
>>>       - mark
>>>
>>>
>>> And ideally location diverse too for the purposes of DR. The latency 
>>> between Sydney and Melbourne for a lot of our customers is so 
>>> negligible at the application layer that they buy two vDCs, one in 
>>> each of our Availability Zones and connect them together via our 
>>> MPLS services. Each zone in our case is completely independent at 
>>> the infrastructure level.
>>
>> Are the zones monitored by independent NOCs, and operated by 
>> completely diverse NOC engineers so the same finger-fumble or 
>> automated provisioning tool can't be applied to configs in both 
>> locations?
>>
>> I've seen someone press 'commit' to a router config script with a 
>> typo  that proceeded to take down approx. 45 routers across 
>> 20-something countries. Each country was completely independent at 
>> the infrastructure level then, too.
>>
>> +1 What Mark said above. If your multiple diverse services stem 
>> ultimately from the same boardroom table, you aren't diverse.
>>
>> Paul.
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