[AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

Patrick Cole z at amused.net
Tue Jan 6 09:58:12 EST 2015


Yeah, even a good text mail client deals with HTML OK if you configure it
right.  I use mutt, for example, and have it pipe html parts through 'links' and
display that.  Helps gets rid of a lot of the cruft too.

Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 09:45:51AM +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:

>    I wanted to say this too, but I thought people would get grumpy.... glad
>    many others feel the same.
>    If you have a problem with html, you need get a new browser or not load
>    images.
>    ...Skeeve
>    Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
>    eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>    Email:A skeeve at eintellegonetworks.comA ; Web:A eintellegonetworks.com
> 
>    Phone: 1300 239 038 ;A Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
> 
>    Facebook:A eintellegonetworksA ; Twitter:A eintellego
> 
>    LinkedIn:A /in/skeeveA ;A Expert360:A Profile
> 
>    The Experts Who The Experts Call
>    Juniper - CiscoA - Cumulus Linux - CloudA - ConsultingA - IPv4 Brokering
>    On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      The 1990s called, they want their text-mode clients that can't cope with
>      HTML back.
> 
>      Seriously, this is still a thing in this day and age? Sure, you may
>      choose to use a text-mode client. Just like you may choose to ride a
>      horse to work - but we don't ask that people don'tA  drive past you for
>      fear of scaring the horse...
> 
>      On 06/01/2015 12:21 AM, "Mattia Rossi"
>      <mattia.rossi.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>        Hmmm, you should also follow this one:
> 
>        (d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people who
>        read with text mode clients.
> 
>        The most annoying bit of HTML messages is, if a message doesn't load
>        on some crappy connection on the road, just because there's an image
>        in the signature...
> 
>        Cheers,
> 
>        Mat
> 
>        Am 05.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Skeeve Stevens:
> 
>          Done... oh Damnit!
>          Like many others here on Gmail/Google Apps... it doesn't actually
>          show me my signature before I send it.. So I didn't notice.A  Then I
>          thought how do I do a different one for a mailing list... and then
>          realised I already do... so fixed :)
>          I think it's time to re-organise my email... hmmm.
>          ...Skeeve
>          Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy
> 
>          Email:A skeeve at theispguy.comA ;A Twitter:A @TheISPGuy
> 
>          Blog:A TheISPGuy.comA ; Facebook:A TheISPGuy
> 
>          LinkedIn:A /in/skeeveA ;A Expert360:A Profile
> 
>          On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com>
>          wrote:
> 
>            On a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:
> 
>            (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun seeing
>            signatures that are longer than your posts;
> 
>            How about it, Skeeve? :-)
> 
>            Regards,
>            -Brad.
>            ________________________________________
>            From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve
>            Stevens [skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com]
>            Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM
>            To: David Hughes
>            Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
>            Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
> 
>            Hey,
> 
>            Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium list
>            :)A  i.e. an Ausnog Premium 'Member'
> 
>            That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...
> 
>            ...Skeeve
> 
>            Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
>            eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>            Email:
>            skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com>
>            ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com<http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
> 
>            Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
> 
>            Facebook:
>            eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;
>            Twitter: eintellego<https://twitter.com/eintellego>
> 
>            LinkedIn: /in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360:
>            Profile<https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
> 
>            [http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png]
>            The Experts Who The Experts Call
>            Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4
>            Brokering
> 
>            On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes
>            <david at hughes.com.au<mailto:david at hughes.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>            Good morning and welcome to a new work year.A  I hope everyone
>            managed some time off over the festive season.
> 
>            Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG
>            mailing list has dropped appreciably.A  It appears that some
>            members of our community misunderstand the purpose of the list and
>            are using it in a number of ways that are in breach of the list
>            charter.A  That cannot continue.
> 
>            To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the list
>            charter.A  I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link below
>            so that everyone clearly understands the purpose of this list.
> 
>            A  A  A  A  http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
> 
>            In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this list IS
>            NOT to be used for :
> 
>            * level 1 vendor specific tech support.A  If there is a vendor /
>            product specific list or forum please use that.
> 
>            * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour
> 
>            With regard to specific threads that occurred over the Christmas
>            break, I'm at a loss.A  The conduct of some members hit a new low
>            and that sort of behaviour cannot continue.A  As such some
>            individuals have been warned about their conduct and others are
>            now being moderated.A  A Please be warned now that from here on we
>            will swiftly moderate members that ignore the charter.A  We will
>            continue to moderate list members until the quality of postings
>            increases to an acceptable level.
> 
>            In response to being moderated, one list member responded with an
>            email along the lines ofA  "If you people were doing your job
>            ....".A  Can I just remind everyone that we are a group of
>            individuals who volunteer a few man-weeks per year of work towards
>            running the AusNOG Conference.A  We also facilitate this mailing
>            list.A  It is hardly "our job" to force the "professionals" in our
>            industry to act professionally.A  We'll leave that to each of you.
> 
>            Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation and
>            assistance in getting this mailing list back on track.
> 
>            Thanks
> 
>            David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board
>            ...
> 
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