[AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Tue Jan 6 09:45:51 EST 2015


I wanted to say this too, but I thought people would get grumpy.... glad
many others feel the same.

If you have a problem with html, you need get a new browser or not load
images.


...Skeeve

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On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:

> The 1990s called, they want their text-mode clients that can't cope with
> HTML back.
>
> Seriously, this is still a thing in this day and age? Sure, you may choose
> to use a text-mode client. Just like you may choose to ride a horse to work
> - but we don't ask that people don't  drive past you for fear of scaring
> the horse...
> On 06/01/2015 12:21 AM, "Mattia Rossi" <
> mattia.rossi.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hmmm, you should also follow this one:
>>
>> (d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people who
>> read with text mode clients.
>>
>> The most annoying bit of HTML messages is, if a message doesn't load on
>> some crappy connection on the road, just because there's an image in the
>> signature...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mat
>>
>> Am 05.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Skeeve Stevens:
>>
>> Done... oh Damnit!
>>
>>  Like many others here on Gmail/Google Apps... it doesn't actually show
>> me my signature before I send it.. So I didn't notice.  Then I thought how
>> do I do a different one for a mailing list... and then realised I already
>> do... so fixed :)
>>
>>  I think it's time to re-organise my email... hmmm.
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>   *Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy*
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:
>>>
>>> (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun seeing
>>> signatures that are longer than your posts;
>>>
>>> How about it, Skeeve? :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Brad.
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve
>>> Stevens [skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM
>>> To: David Hughes
>>> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium list :)
>>> i.e. an Ausnog Premium 'Member'
>>>
>>> That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
>>> eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:
>>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com> ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com<
>>> http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au
>>> <mailto:david at hughes.com.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning and welcome to a new work year.  I hope everyone managed
>>> some time off over the festive season.
>>>
>>> Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG mailing
>>> list has dropped appreciably.  It appears that some members of our
>>> community misunderstand the purpose of the list and are using it in a
>>> number of ways that are in breach of the list charter.  That cannot
>>> continue.
>>>
>>> To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the list
>>> charter.  I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link below so that
>>> everyone clearly understands the purpose of this list.
>>>
>>>         http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
>>>
>>> In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this list IS NOT to
>>> be used for :
>>>
>>> * level 1 vendor specific tech support.  If there is a vendor / product
>>> specific list or forum please use that.
>>>
>>> * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour
>>>
>>>
>>> With regard to specific threads that occurred over the Christmas break,
>>> I'm at a loss.  The conduct of some members hit a new low and that sort of
>>> behaviour cannot continue.  As such some individuals have been warned about
>>> their conduct and others are now being moderated.   Please be warned now
>>> that from here on we will swiftly moderate members that ignore the
>>> charter.  We will continue to moderate list members until the quality of
>>> postings increases to an acceptable level.
>>>
>>> In response to being moderated, one list member responded with an email
>>> along the lines of  "If you people were doing your job ....".  Can I just
>>> remind everyone that we are a group of individuals who volunteer a few
>>> man-weeks per year of work towards running the AusNOG Conference.  We also
>>> facilitate this mailing list.  It is hardly "our job" to force the
>>> "professionals" in our industry to act professionally.  We'll leave that to
>>> each of you.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation and
>>> assistance in getting this mailing list back on track.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
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