[AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention

Paul Wilkins paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 17:58:47 EST 2015


There's 2 recommendations that go to requirements for storage of metadata,
which are very much a work in progress:

Recommendation 10

The Committee recommends that the Explanatory Memorandum to the
Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention)
Bill 2014 clarify the requirements for service providers with regard to the
retention, de-identification or destruction of data once the two year
retention period has expired

Recommendation 37

The Committee recommends that the Telecommunications (Interception and
Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2014 be amended to require service
providers to encrypt telecommunications data that has been retained for the
purposes of the mandatory data retention regime.
*To give effect to this recommendation, the Committee recommends that the
Data Retention Implementation Working Group develop an appropriate standard
of encryption to be incorporated into regulations*, and that the
Communications Access Co-ordinator be required to consider a provider’s
compliance with this standard as part of the Data Retention Implementation
Plan process.
Further, the Communications Access Co-ordinator should be given the
power to authorise other robust security measures in limited circumstances
in which technical difficulties prevent encryption from being implemented
in existing systems used by service providers.


On 27 February 2015 at 16:46, Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au>
wrote:

> It has to be encrypted as part of the legislation Kris
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> Regards
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> Paul
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Kristoffer
> Sheather @ CloudCentral
> *Sent:* Friday, 27 February 2015 4:44 PM
> *To:* Phillip Grasso
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention
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> Don't bother encrypting it, they probably either have the keys (or compel
> you to provide them) and/or can break the encryption.
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> Regards,
> Kristoffer Sheather
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> *From*: "Phillip Grasso" <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:42 PM
> *To*: kris at cloudcentral.com.au
> *Cc*: "Peter Lawler" <ausnog at bleeter.id.au>, "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject*: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention
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> did they specify what kind of storage conditions it needs to be stored
> under?
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> If not do it cheap as possible to keep costs to customers as long as
> possible; that sounds like jbod or a raid0 array[encrypted of course]
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <
> kristoffer.sheather at cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:
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> That's exactly what they should do, isn't the government supposed to be
> all about "transparency" :) ?
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> Regards,
> Kristoffer Sheather
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> *From*: "Phillip Grasso" <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:38 PM
> *To*: "Peter Lawler" <ausnog at bleeter.id.au>
> *Cc*: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject*: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention
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> who's gonna pay for this? any increase in compliance costs normally end up
> costing the customer.
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> Wouldn't it be funny if most of the ISP's put on their bill notices:
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> *Mandatory Government Metadata surcharge tax^H^H^H: ~+$2 *
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter Lawler <ausnog at bleeter.id.au>
> wrote:
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> On 27/02/15 13:21, Matt Perkins wrote:
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> > I have one prediction the roll out of this is going to be the biggest
> > debacle since pink bats.
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> Loathed to mention it as it's arguably OT, but there's a piece doing the
> rounds at the moment about the cost of the eHealth record stuff and how
> underutilised it has been by the general population.
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> As such, I think you're missing the relevant debacle comparator.
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> Pete.
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