[AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU

Ben Grubb bgrubb at smh.com.au
Mon Apr 6 19:16:14 EST 2015


I understand the point you're trying to make —  perhaps "These graphs
show **some
of** the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet" might have
pleased you more. The purpose was to quantify how much traffic was being
pumped through peering exchanges. A headline with peering in it isn't going
to be that digestible.

In lieu of other stats — iiNet and Megaport's are both listed in the story  —
this is what we have to go on.

I actually list the ISPs in the story who are not using caching nodes:
"Member ISPs include Exetel, M2 Telecom (which owns the Dodo and iPrimus
brands), and the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNET)".

Anyway, I don't want this to continue to go off-topic and piss people off
so I'll try and leave it at that :)



On 6 April 2015 at 19:02, Seamus Ryan <s.ryan at uber.com.au> wrote:

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> >>   Again, I don't understand what the complaint is. These were not
> super secret graphs...
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> Can I nitpick?
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> The graphs being used don’t concern me the slightest, they are public and
> are free for anyone to use IMO. It’s the title that gets me *"These
> graphs show the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet*"
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> No, they don’t.
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> All those graphs show is a large amount of traffic suddenly being served
> locally using domestic IX’s rather than being pulled from overseas
> networks. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has actually provided
> statistics (real stats, not estimations) on how many Netflix users resided
> in Australia BEFORE Netflix officially launched here. Additionally, nobody
> has provided stats on the signup rate since the official launch. The former
> we will probably never know because it isn’t in their interests to know.
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> If you read through the history of this thread, or even do just a few
> minutes of testing, you will find US-Exclusive content being served to
> Australian users (I won’t go into how, you all know) is in fact being
> served by IP’s/Caches that reside in Australia.
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> What this means is that you,  (nor I) can prove the large amount of
> traffic hitting the Netflix caches locally (the ones linked to in your news
> article) is in fact a huge surge in Netflix signups, or simply the many
> users who have been using Netflix for years in Australia suddenly hitting a
> local cache rather than one overseas.
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> The only half-fact we have from iiNet was:
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> *Netflix has already reached 15 per cent of iiNet's consumer traffic in
> the first two days since launch. We are terrifically excited by the
> response*
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> But I would question whether iiNet (or any ISP for that matter) was
> actually keeping a close eye on their users’ Netflix traffic BEFORE the
> official launch in Australia. I would be interested to hear if some of the
> larger players have noticed a drop in international traffic simply because
> the content is now local.
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> Food for thoughts J
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> Regards,
> Seamus
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