[AusNOG] Community TV given the flick

Alan Maher alanmaher at gmail.com
Fri Sep 12 21:31:42 EST 2014


We know that Kilohertz can deliver a mono audio signal for a very long 
distance.
And Megahertz can deliver a stereo audio signal for a reasonable distance.
Each of which is carrying a reasonable load of information in an 
analogue fashion.
If converted into Morse Code- i.e. digital pulses, then surely it should 
be easy to
transfer data over quite reasonably long distance by wireless.
A two way transmission would obviously require some investment by both
parties, but the potential is there for an independent "State of mind" who
might like to think outside the square.


On 12/09/2014 8:24 p.m., Curtis Bayne wrote:
> I will miss Briz31.
>
> I remember watching "Caravaning with Tommo" 
> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR53H-zgU0I) as a younger Curtis - 
> Tommo is all to blame for my love of camping.
>
> This is a dangerous precedent to set, in my opinion. I listen to 
> community radio (especially Switch1197) up here in Brisbane - to lose 
> community radio (which I would argue has greater penetration than 
> community television) would be an even greater loss to the community, 
> and I am worried that this is the next permutation of this exercise.
>
> > I suspect that there is more life left in lower frequency radio waves 
> for digital transmission
> but that isn't where the iPod money is.
>
> Sssssh.... lest they start "reclaiming" the HF/VHF amateur radio 
> frequencies as well...
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Alan Maher <alanmaher at gmail.com 
> <mailto:alanmaher at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ki Ora from All Black land,
>
>     While this may not be exactly aligned with the network issues
>     normally aligned on this
>     group- I am happy to follow the discussion to date. I will call it
>     a "Friday" discussion.
>
>     In most of the Western World, the standard analogue TV channels
>     have been switched off
>     and the frequency spectrum sold to Mobile operators with deep pockets.
>     I was never sure exactly why this was done, but assume that powers
>     of intelligence much
>     greater than mine were at work.  Personally, I suspect the
>     politicians saw dollar signs and
>     went blind very quickly.
>
>     Community TV was never a "biggie" in NZ, despite the spectrum
>     being available, as most
>     small communities never had the kind of resources available to
>     undertake that stuff.
>     Small scale community radio still seems to happen, but it is
>     rarely noted or listened to.
>
>     By way of comparison, I happened to live in a tiny town in New
>     England, USA where the
>     dial-up connection was as reliable as a politicians promise- it
>     would disconnect at random
>     intervals usually when you were in the middle of something that
>     seemed important at the time.
>     Like a MS Service pack download.
>     This was 2001
>
>     We had a cable TV connection, but just a basic one that didn't
>     cost the earth and offer
>     600 channels of repeats of MASH or something similar.
>
>     However, I was amused that one channel was the local town channel.
>     And we are talking a town with maybe 900 residents.
>     This channel constantly broadcast all the contact phone numbers
>     for the various services
>     that the tiny town provided as kind of Power Point slide show.
>     Then................once a week it got really exciting, because
>     that was when they had the town
>     meeting, and it was all broadcast live via a single tiny webcam.
>
>     All the local town council people had to behave themselves when it
>     was live to the community.
>     No backdoor deals, no behind the scenes nonsense (well, I had to
>     assume so) and it
>     was actually quite interesting to watch.
>
>     I have to assume that the Cable TV provider allowed some form of
>     local access as a right to
>     distribute their content within that area.
>
>     That is readily done on the net, but getting through to the local
>     community relies on 2 very
>     important things - 1/ Internet access, and a reasonable/modest
>     speed and 2/Local awareness
>     of its existence.
>
>     I live in a rural area, but am lucky enough to live quite close to
>     the Telephone exchange, so
>     I get quite good speed on an ADSL2 connection and could upgrade to
>     VDSL, but haven't bothered.
>
>     The radio/wireless/tv  frequencies (in my view) have been
>     hi-jacked by the scam merchants
>     and fellow travellers, as an "all move forward for benefit of
>     mankind" digital upgrade that
>     actually serves no great benefit at all, and disadvantages large
>     sections of people who do
>     not live in a big city and quite enjoy listening to scratchy radio
>     from a distance, or watching
>     their selection of a couple of channels (with snow) of the news.
>
>     I suspect that there is more life left in lower frequency radio
>     waves for digital transmission
>     but that isn't where the iPod money is.
>
>     But, I would be happy to be advised otherwise.
>
>     Alan Maher
>
>
>     On 12/09/2014 5:56 p.m., Mark ZZZ Smith wrote:
>
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>             Subject: [AusNOG] Community TV given the flick
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>
>             Hey Guys,
>
>             Anyone seen this?
>
>             http://m.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/community-tv-gets-pushed-onto-internet-20140910-10eur2.html
>
>             Any they expect to run this on our NBN. They are kidding
>             them selves right?
>
>         These guys from Sydney produce the content would have been on
>         community TV in the past. Much better to use Youtube, much
>         bigger audience.
>
>         https://www.youtube.com/user/mightycarmods (900K subscribers,
>         from all over the world. Most recent production sponsored by
>         Google and Screen Australia)
>
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