[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Matt Perkins]

Wow number 3 is a bit hard. How would we work out the destination of a 
skype call for example ?

Matt


On 30/10/2014 3:08 pm, Ben Cooper wrote:
> Draft Data set here: 
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/244951610/Data-Retention-Draft-Data-Set-301014
>
> Looks like more than "just some IP addresses".
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net 
> <mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Matt Perkins wrote:
>
>         That fact's seem to be that this legislation will pass without
>         consultation outside the gang of 4 at least and there is
>         little if anything we can do about it. So the conversion
>         should really switch to. What technically do we need to do to
>         meet the requirements of the legislation or instruments. Can
>         we clearly define that so people in our industry can work to a
>         place where we can all provide the same information and be
>         sure that we have not missed something that will cause grief
>         down the track.
>
>
>     My local federal member has just replied to me with (in part):
>
>     "Telecommunications companies will have up to two years to fully
>     implement the scheme.
>     To prevent any further erosion of data, industry will be required
>     to at least maintain their current practices for holding data during
>     the implementation period.
>
>     The Government is prepared to pay a reasonable share of upfront
>     capital costs associated with the implementation of the data retention
>     scheme."
>
>
>     So, despite their earlier "assurances" that there is no
>     requirement to retain things like websites accessed etc, that is
>     absolutely NOT preculuded as being a (subsequent) requirement, as
>     has been said on this list earlier.
>
>     That is, this is absolutely "narrow end of the wedge" legislation,
>     almost certainly subject to "feature creep" (or "scope expansion")
>     over time.
>
>     There is a great deal we (the numerical majority) are not privy
>     to. I suspect (some of) the "gang of 4" have a lot more specific
>     information than the rest of us are permitted to know. The
>     secrecy, haste and ignorance surrounding this entire thing scares
>     me. (I had written "astounds me" then changed it to "surprises me"
>     but in honesty with the calibre of politician (and public
>     servants) we have now (and have had for quite some time), it
>     neither surprises nor astounds me).
>
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