[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

thelionroars thelionroars1337 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 13:00:00 EST 2014


I would hope someone involved realises that identifying with a MAC address
is worse than useless.
On 30 Oct 2014 12:42, "Sam Silvester" <sam.silvester at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, that isn't very comforting.
>
> As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without further
> legislative oversight.
>
> Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers) stuff
> like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just you watch.
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this morning and
>> (boring I know)
>> but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to record the
>> destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the source IP address
>> mapping.
>> That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the customer who
>> had the IP address at a given date and time.
>>
>> I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which have a
>> multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what data they
>>> want kept.
>>>
>>> Reference:
>>> http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know why you're so upset about this.
>>>> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.
>>>> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow
>>>> history.
>>>>
>>>> dave
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <
>>>> paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there
>>>>> nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can just see the $$$$ now…..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> *Andrew Yager
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM
>>>>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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