[AusNOG] Offsite Storage

[Nick Adams]

It has become a lot more important since the recent Privacy Act changes.
Cross-border disclosure of personal information affects every
organisation with revenue >$3m:

http://www.oaic.gov.au/privacy/applying-privacy-law/app-guidelines/chapter-8-app-8-cross-border-disclosure-of-personal-information

Good luck getting Amazon to confirm where your data is stored.

Nick.

On 26/11/2014 2:33 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
> People hyperventilate about cloud data locations a lot more than makes
> sense, but yes AWS have an Australian region in an Australian DC. 
> They're also building two more DCs themselves.
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> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
> <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>> wrote:
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>     Where do AWS store this data as in which governments’ laws come in
>     to play. Do AWS have tin in Australia and can you make the data stay
>     only in Australia?____
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>     Alex____
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>     *From:*Barry Murphy [mailto:barry at vibecommunications.co.nz
>     <mailto:barry at vibecommunications.co.nz>]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 3:19 PM
>     *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Peter Tiggerdine
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>     *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage____
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>     Sounds like a small amount of data, tried Amazon S3 or something
>     similar?____
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>     Amazon allows you to ‘mount’ a virtual tape drive in their cloud and
>     you can set it to have 7 tapes and rotate them daily etc.____
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>     See http://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/create-a-virtual-tape-library-using-the-aws-storage-gateway/____
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>     You can then have backups older than X days go into glacier rather
>     than the more expensive S3 if you wanted.____
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>     Kind regards,____
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>     *Barry Murphy* / *Chief Operating Officer*____
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>     *From: *Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com
>     <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>>
>     *Date: *Wednesday, 26 November 2014 5:10 pm
>     *To: *Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>>
>     *Cc: *"ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>"
>     <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
>     *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage____
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>     Yes____
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>     My current investigation is small amount of data ~ 10-20G of core
>     data.____
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>     We are happy with our current backup regime but we don’t account for
>     malicious loss of data. IE all the backups are available on the
>     network somebody can delete everything online.  Offsite gives you
>     protection from that.____
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>     Currently the old tape backup unit isn’t functioning, we are looking
>     at around ~10-15K for a server / storage / drive / tapes.  I could
>     also but some external HD’s, write to them over nite and then ship
>     them off during the day. With the cost of SSD and their size coming
>     down that’s even more attractive.____
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>     What I would really like is some virtual tape library available over
>     Mega Port, where somebody else looks after tape management or
>     virtual tapes, as long as I need some process which includes
>     authorisation to bring the tapes back on line.  But at the right
>     price J____
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>     Alex____
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>     *From:*Peter Tiggerdine [mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:57 PM
>     *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
>     *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage____
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>     Pundits have being declaring this for 20 years and it still hasn't
>     happened.____
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>     Tape has it's place as does D2D backup.____
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>     The answer to your question is "it depends" on "____
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>     Organisation size and maturity.____
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>     DR Plan____
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>     On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
>     <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>>
>     wrote:____
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>     Hi
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>     Wondering what people are doing for offsite store / backups. Looking
>     at
>     http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out
>     LTO tapes sales are down.  People are backing up to disk.
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>     But what are people doing for offsite.  Removable HDs ?
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>     Alex
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