[AusNOG] Interesting

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Wed May 14 09:45:50 EST 2014


Hah, DDoPS  :)

Maybe we could create a revolving list... and include turnbull and abott
too.


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:

>
> In message <
> CAA05nen+P1zjqo5NpSdX1tBx6fsxrdLfei5JKVXz7QigtJDS2A at mail.gmail.com>
> , Ben Buxton writes:
> > On 14 May 2014 05:22, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Well at the very least if there was even a remote chance of a Amazon /
> > > Azure / GoogleCompute region opening up in NZ they just blew that
> chance
> > > clear of the water."
> > >
> > > Why, given that this law is more targeting ISPs (i.e. not cloud
> > > providers), and those firms comply with similar interception/tapping
> > > regimes in other countries they operate in?
> > >
> >
> > I read through it, this regulation is nuts. It may not be long before
> they
> > decide that compute providers
> > also fall into this category.
> >
> > Most LI requirements only specify the capability, and how you provide
> that
> > capability is up to the SP (granted, many have rolled out identical
> > implementations). This goes way beyond and actually requires you to get
> > governmental approval on most aspects of your network implementation.
> >
> > - Want to deploy a new linecard? Need government approval for that.
> >
> > - Want to move your TAC/Radius servers? Ask the government first.
> >
> > - Selling a new product or plan? Not til the government ok's it.
> >
> > - Want to roll out a new vendor? Need government approval.
> >
> > - NOC want to roll out a new tool they wrote to improve monitoring? Need
> to
> > submit for government approval first.
> >
> > - Netflow collector changes? Hell no, ask government first.
> >
> > - Don't dare "apt-get install" anything on your NOC workstations without
> > first applying to the government.
> >
> > If you're a global provider with NZ presence, this seems to affect your
> ops
> > teams in europe/usa/aus/etc.
> >
> > This probably doesn't matter for most incumbent local telco's as they're
> > used to loads of red tape, but
> > a good agile provider can go from inception to deployment of many of
> these
> > aspects within a week - this
> > requires significant documentation and a 20 day turnaround.
> >
> > [* Personal opinion, nothing to do with my employer]
> >
> > BB
>
> So the next time something breaks, ring the minister and don't fix
> it until you get approval.  Keep doing this.  Add a recorded message
> to you help lines saying "We regret that the service is down.  The
> Government require us to submit all change requests to them and we
> cannot fix the problem until the change request is approved.  If
> you do not like this policy please contact the minister for <portfolio>
> <name of minister>,  his/her office phone number is <office-number>".
>
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
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