[AusNOG] BGP AS

[Alex Samad - Yieldbroker]

Pardon my ignorance, but couldn’t you  (as in pipe) at the AATP border to the NON PIPE world, edit the AS chain to remove any Pipe / TPG / … AS and thus reduce the AS path length ?




From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joshua D'Alton
Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2014 10:16 AM
To: Luke Iggleden
Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BGP AS

Yes they haven't merged fully, but they have come a long way in the last few years, there is now only 3-4 hops not 9 :P

The issue I think is all those customers are business, and the time it would take to properly fix it all would break too many SLAs. If it was residential, I'm sure they'd just bite the bullet and fix it all.

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au<mailto:luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>> wrote:
I've heard the AAPT 2764 network will remain as is for the foreseeable future and I hope so. :)

Historically TPG hasn't merged their acquisitions at a routing level. Think comindico, soul, pipe - at one stage I remember seeing a traceroute out of sydney from comindico post purchase and it was like 9 hops or something. wow.





On 8/05/2014 8:43 am, Dylan Chidgey wrote:
Hi Alex,

In my experience the three networks are still somewhat separate from each
other.

Dylan.

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Subject: [AusNOG] BGP AS

Hi

Wondering how other people are dealing with Pipe / TPG / AAPT AS's

Do you treat them as 1 company, the presumption being that the peering
between them is a lot better or because they haven't merged their AS, treat
them as 3 separate AS's


So if my understanding is correct if I peer with Pipe, AAPT clients see me
as 3 AS's away, but if the peering is better AAPT -> Pipe -> ME than say XXX
-> ME.

But this is all based on the assumption that PIPE -> AAPT & Pipe -> TPG is
better ??


Alex
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