[AusNOG] Looks like the NBN will be the TBN!

John Lindsay johnslindsay at mac.com
Sat Jun 28 10:21:59 EST 2014


The Tophat RIMs are already vdsl2 capable.

The trial will be to supply consumers with new CPE and turn it on. 

The rest is just theatre to distract voters and interminable meetings to discuss processes. 

John Lindsay

> On 27 Jun 2014, at 10:38 pm, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the feeling that this FTTN rollout is going to consist of replacing rims with "nodes" and seeing how it falls out in terms of speed. (keeping in mind there are no guarantees any more) If the screaming isn't too loud then that's FTTN roll-out validated.
> 
> It'll also mean hitting their 12 month time frame is feasible.
> 
> I believe that MT would be pushing for customers to provide their own CPE, more "competition" that way.
> 
> 
>> On 27/06/14 21:29, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
>> ‘Up To’, as in, if you’re already on a RIM, (which is technically FTTN anyway, 4x2mbps or 4x155mbps fibres), you’re stuck? :-p
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Jun 2014, at 6:25 pm, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Telstra deal has been announced as "Up To" 100mbps down / 40mbps up on VDSL. 
>>> 
>>> --Damian
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Radek Tkaczyk <radek at tkaczyk.id.au> wrote:
>>>> Apparently areas that are FTTN will have 50Mbps…. But I don’t believe it. Trials have shown 106Mbps… but that was probably only at the house next door to the node!
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> What I want to know, is what will be the modem/NTU device required with an FTTN connection? Will we being using ADSL/VDSL modems that the end users have to supply (as it currently is with ADSL) or will NBNCo provide a copper based NTU of some sort?
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> One of the things I loved about the FTTH design was that the NTD that was deployed by NBNCo allowed 4 separate data connections, and 2 separate voice connections, all on the one box, and was managed by NBNCo.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> So if someone was really greedy, they could get 4 x 100Mbps connections from 4 different providers!
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> And then we didn’t have to deal with the crappy ADSL CPE issues from end users with dodgy devices like we see these days.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Radek
>>>> 
>>>> Ph: 0413 383 231
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>>>> radek at tkaczyk.id.au
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>>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ben Cooper
>>>> Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 5:18 PM
>>>> To: Phil Pierotti
>>>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like the NBN will be the TBN!
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>>>> What if we live in that                               rollout area, and already have FTTN? is that it? 1.5 mbps for life?
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>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Phil Pierotti <Phil.Pierotti at day3.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Total Bull / Terribly Bad / Two Bit / Telstra Borg'd / Tonys Broken
>>>> Network
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Phil Pierotti
>>>> Senior Network Engineer
>>>> day3 Solutions / Clear Networks
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