[AusNOG] iiNet - packet management versus censorship - a realistic alternative

Geordie Guy elomis at gmail.com
Wed Jun 11 13:42:40 EST 2014


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Mike Ryan - Brass Razoo Group <
brassrazoo1 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Let's just suppose instead of responding predictably (outraged!) we
> propose a viable alternative? The police want ISP's to archive log files?
> No problem. Here is the monthly charge Police Minister for administration
> and data storage costs.
>

New Zealand did this and the anger about it from Hollywood became the
second thing next to the great wall visible from space.  The content
industry isn't going to get sucked into that again.


> Government requires ISP's to manage and block traffic? No problem. Here is
> the monthly charge for providing this service.
>

How'd that go when it was proposed by the ALP to block the ACMA blacklist
websites seven years ago?  If I remember correctly a handful of Mum 'n'
Dad's Outback Network Shack ISPs shivved each other to get on the trial of
it so some of their costs would be covered as part of the trial, and
everyone else got told to GTFO and budget for pass-by filters for Q1 2008 -
Q5 200-forever.


> When the reality dawns that these tasks cost big money then we may see a
> rapid policy change.
> Applying commercial acumen to polices may result in better outcomes - NBN
> anybody?
>

And how did the FTTP NBN go?  It's like you're deliberately using evidence
of how you're wrong to advocate your position that you're right.


>
> PS - I am not trolling - but the predictable response to anything this
> Govt does makes me very tired.
>

Yeah. I'm bloody exhausted from everybody who operates a network on AusNOG
(and those that don't) predictably coming up with ideas of tossing half a
Coles epping sausage over the fence to the Australian Federation Against
Copyright Theft's pack of pit bulls who are overjoyed at the fact a pro-US
copyright agenda Attorney General with a side-portfolio in the arts is
ready to do whatever they want.


>
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