[AusNOG] So are iiNet condoning illegal piracy?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Yes... and Telstra and other carriers should be monitoring the content of
your phone calls for illegal or threatening content, and censoring you on
the fly... just in case!


...Skeeve

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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Greg Anderson <ganderson at raywhite.com>
wrote:

> So really what should be happening here, is network operators should be
> identifying the illegal use of networking processes.  Then, by identifying
> the users address, they can contact the power companies who are providing
> the power to a user who is using that power for illegal download activities
> and illegally share the users address with them.  The power companies then
> should send someone out to site to cut this illegal use of electricity,
> upon which they confer with the network operator to ensure the illegal
> downloads have stopped, job done.
>
> Or better yet, the power companies can monitor their power network and
> identify the minuscule voltage changes resulting from packet transmission,
> read the packet for illegal activity, and then shut down the power
> themselves upon breach.
>
> Problem solvered.
>
>
> On 11 June 2014 12:17, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au> wrote:
>
>>  Do power companies get prosecuted when people use their power for
>> illegal drug producing operations? Or more specifically power retailers.
>> Nope.
>>
>> Personally I would say illegal drug production and distribution is more
>> dangerous to society than Hollywood piracy.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
>> Stevens
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 June 2014 12:11 PM
>> *To:* mike at brassrazoo.net.au
>> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] So are iiNet condoning illegal piracy?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>>
>>
>> That is a big of an arrogant and near-sighted perspective on the issue.
>>  We're not talking about what is and isn't legal.  We're talking about ISPs
>> becoming the police and being responsible for what people do on their
>> networks.
>>
>>
>>
>> We do not blame drunk drivers on the RTA/RMS/Vic Roads/etc? Nor do we
>> blame the local government for a mugging or other violent crime that
>> happens on the streets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Police, law enforcement and prosecution of offences already have their
>> processes. ISPs should not be monitoring what users do, or acting on
>> anything from anywhere other than legal avenues.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>
>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>
>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mike Ryan - Brass Razoo Group <
>> brassrazoo1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  By opposing legislation that outlaws criminal activity (intellectual
>> property theft) are iiNet giving a tacit nod to illegal activities? ISP's
>> and carriers are not liable for the behaviour of their clients. iiNet
>> should stick to providing shareholder value and ensuring system
>> availability.
>>
>> It's called "Rule of Law".
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