[AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Wed Jul 2 23:47:02 EST 2014


Speaking of PEN.   I did a brief comparison of Megaport and PEN in my last
Commsday presentation - which is incidentially all about selling wholesale
services over VxC's.

Check out:
http://www.slideshare.net/skeeve/wholesale-services-over-vxc-fabrics -
slide 10.

Personally, while I love VxC's for ISP services, I am more interested in
businesses themselves getting on these fabrics, which is what PEN is, and
getting access to a ton of interesting services, especially on demand.


...Skeeve

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au>
wrote:

> I had the idea of Bandwidth as a Service (on demand), in general maybe 5
> years ago when I asked the question "how do businesses restore from online
> backups when they are on slow internet?", and more recently specifically
> over megaport (I think I might have made a post about this before..?) a
> couple years ago, not long before someone came along and tried to set up
> global transit swapping/trading (google fails me, I think said person might
> have posted to ausnog..), but it turned out that the idea has been done 15
> years ago!  http://www.oecd.org/sti/broadband/1895041.pdf  interesting
> read though I don't think band-x exists any more, or at least the service?
>
> I think the rise of SDN will see BaaS or spot trading (would be amazing to
> see IP transit futures on NYSE... LOL) come into being, there has to be
> money made out of it (even if its just hole selling or symmetry selling as
> per Skeeves video).
>
> I notice pacnet have taken the first step with http://pen.pacnet.com/
> which is very interesting indeed.
>
>
>  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Chris Gibbs <
> Chris.Gibbs at gosford.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>
>>  Good video Skeeve.
>>
>>
>>
>> Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit
>> speed, wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or
>> other??) and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing
>> upstream from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is
>> a clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2
>> I’d imagine
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out
>> for anything else.
>>
>>
>>
>> Couple it with a decent API and an underlying programmable network and I
>> think it could be decent
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
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>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
>> Stevens
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 6:30 PM
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>> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit
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>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a follow-up video relating to the current state of the transit
>> space discussion recently.  I thought I would get some thoughts out of my
>> head as a lot of people ask me about transit and I thought others might
>> find it useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may,
>> especially those selling transit in a certain way.  This video is more
>> about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways.
>>  It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you
>> have time to watch it.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://theispguy.com/thoughts-about-transit/
>>
>>
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>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
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