[AusNOG] Looks like the NBN will be the TBN!

Matthew Moyle-Croft mmc at mmc.com.au
Tue Jul 1 08:17:43 EST 2014


It's 2005/2006 all over again.  Gang-of-Nine/Sol Trujillo/etc/etc.
Looks like Telstra played the long game here.




On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:21 PM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com> wrote:
> The Tophat RIMs are already vdsl2 capable.
>
> The trial will be to supply consumers with new CPE and turn it on.
>
> The rest is just theatre to distract voters and interminable meetings to
> discuss processes.
>
> John Lindsay
>
> On 27 Jun 2014, at 10:38 pm, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:
>
> I have the feeling that this FTTN rollout is going to consist of replacing
> rims with "nodes" and seeing how it falls out in terms of speed. (keeping in
> mind there are no guarantees any more) If the screaming isn't too loud then
> that's FTTN roll-out validated.
>
> It'll also mean hitting their 12 month time frame is feasible.
>
> I believe that MT would be pushing for customers to provide their own CPE,
> more "competition" that way.
>
>
> On 27/06/14 21:29, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
>
> ‘Up To’, as in, if you’re already on a RIM, (which is technically FTTN
> anyway, 4x2mbps or 4x155mbps fibres), you’re stuck? :-p
>
>
> On 27 Jun 2014, at 6:25 pm, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Telstra deal has been announced as "Up To" 100mbps down / 40mbps up on
> VDSL.
>
> --Damian
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Radek Tkaczyk <radek at tkaczyk.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> Apparently areas that are FTTN will have 50Mbps…. But I don’t believe it.
>> Trials have shown 106Mbps… but that was probably only at the house next door
>> to the node!
>>
>>
>>
>> What I want to know, is what will be the modem/NTU device required with an
>> FTTN connection? Will we being using ADSL/VDSL modems that the end users
>> have to supply (as it currently is with ADSL) or will NBNCo provide a copper
>> based NTU of some sort?
>>
>>
>>
>> One of the things I loved about the FTTH design was that the NTD that was
>> deployed by NBNCo allowed 4 separate data connections, and 2 separate voice
>> connections, all on the one box, and was managed by NBNCo.
>>
>>
>>
>> So if someone was really greedy, they could get 4 x 100Mbps connections
>> from 4 different providers!
>>
>>
>>
>> And then we didn’t have to deal with the crappy ADSL CPE issues from end
>> users with dodgy devices like we see these days.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Radek
>>
>> Ph: 0413 383 231
>>
>> radek at tkaczyk.id.au
>>
>>
>>
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ben
>> Cooper
>> Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 5:18 PM
>> To: Phil Pierotti
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like the NBN will be the TBN!
>>
>>
>>
>> What if we live in that rollout area, and already have FTTN? is that it?
>> 1.5 mbps for life?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Phil Pierotti <Phil.Pierotti at day3.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Total Bull / Terribly Bad / Two Bit / Telstra Borg'd / Tonys Broken
>> Network
>>
>>
>> Phil Pierotti
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> day3 Solutions / Clear Networks
>>
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