[AusNOG] Telstra + Pacnet - Just thinking

Bevan Slattery bevan at slattery.net.au
Thu Dec 18 16:42:47 EST 2014


Smart business acumen.  There could be a significant advantage to the
industry, but that is dependent on how Telstra/Pacnet view the acquisition
and where its value lies.  Time will tell.

Cheers

[b]

On 18/12/2014 8:23 am, "Joseph Goldman" <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

>  Are your opinions based on their smart Business acumen, or based on
>advantage to the industry? Obviously your allowed to have an opinion on
>both, good business is good business, but I'm also curious to know how
>it may help he current AU marketplace, if you / others think it will?
>
>  We used to deal with TPG and PIPE separately for products, but as the
>conglomerate is getting bigger and bigger their support and other
>factors have fallen badly, so I'm always afraid of mergers of 2 big
>entities (especially if I'm a direct customer of 1 or both).
>
>On 18/12/14 09:15, Bevan Slattery wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> It would be a great buy for Telstra.  For many, many years (since the
>> early 90¹s) they have been trying to get into Asia in a meaningful way
>> with some disasterous results in the 90¹s.  Pacnet has assets ³baked²
>> into Asia that Telstra could leverage really well.  People on-list
>> probably don¹t realise how wide and deep Pacnet are in Asia.  Landing
>> stations/data centres, major subsea cable owner in most major Asian
>> countries, with particular strength in HK and Sing and beachhead into
>> China (one of the few to operate in China).
>>
>> Moving some of that NBN$ out of Australia and into Asia.  If managed
>> well it¹s a smart move David Thodey.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [b]
>>
>> From: "hudrob at gmail.com <mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>" <hudrob at gmail.com
>> <mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:44 am
>> To: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net
>><mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net>>
>> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>"
>> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra + Pacnet - Just thinking
>>
>> My latest dealing with Telstra haven't been stellar.  Routers sent to
>> site and the wrong people contacted about them, failing to mention that
>> they'd terminated a service in a ready room when the order was for a
>> service into a rtack (amnd then not passing on the circuit details so a
>> cross-connect could be ordered, misconfiguring routers (including not
>> allowing remote access to them for management).
>>
>> And now I face the prospect of having them take over the datacentre I
>> currently have a good deal of kit in...
>>
>> On 18 December 2014 at 07:09, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net
>> <mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     I couldn't imagine how painful it would to deal with a Telstra
>>     version of Megaport.  When I got TID ADSL connected at home here
>>     last year, somehow they provisioned it without IPv6  (And that was
>>     after having to order it EIGHT times, because Telstra didn't bother
>>     to let me know that the order was being automagically cancelled the
>>     next day due to a wholesaler having a pending order in for the same
>>     service).
>>
>>     30 mins going around in circles to support, and they finally put me
>>     through to an Engineer who said it was a 2- minute change, but he
>>     needed me to call sales to ask for it first.  Six calls and about 3
>>     hours of hell later, I FINALLY had someone in sales who knew what V6
>>     was.  Six follow-up calls and six weeks later, I finally got onto an
>>     Engineer again, who seemed surprised that I was asking when my V6
>>     would be enabled, as apparently it had been enabled for five weeks -
>>     just noone ever notified me.  Apparently an IPv6 subnet appearing in
>>     Custdata means V6 has been enabled for the service (Not sure what
>>     you do if you have multiple services??), and you just need to keep
>>     checking for it.
>>
>>     Could you imagine going through that EVERY time you spin up a VXC?
>>     YUCK.
>>
>>
>>     On 18 December 2014 at 03:53, Skeeve Stevens
>>     <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>>     <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hmmm...
>>
>>         I know it is speculation... but look at a (maybe) Telstra a year
>>         from now...
>>
>>         Let's say Telstra owns Pacnet, which means it owns PEN (Pacnet
>>         enabled Network)... a Virtual X-Connect Fabric, that is already
>>         interconnected to Megaport and possibly others (anyone like to
>>         advise?).
>>
>>         If Telstra integrate Pacnet as is, potentially it means VxC
>>         access to Telstra (Wholesale?) infrastructure on Megaport and
>>         others... and also access to the pacific fibre network (46,000
>>         km worth of cable), datacentres overseas which would also
>>         potentially be on Megaport in places like Singapore, HK, etc.
>>
>>         Honestly... I'd like to see what would come of it... and hope
>>         that Telstra fully interconnect into a marketplace something
>>         like the above.
>>
>>         ...Skeeve
>>
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