[AusNOG] Data retention definitions

Pinkerton, Eric (AU Sydney) eric.pinkerton at baesystems.com
Thu Aug 28 11:16:14 EST 2014


The problem as I see it, is that it's not this breadth of access (Who) or the reason for the request (Why) that is up for discussion here, but simply content that these requests can and should entail...the 'What'.

We are therefore faced with a private debate about 'What' is retained, when perhaps the crux of the problem and the source of unease is the Who and Why behind these requests.

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2014 9:23 AM
To: Paul Brooks
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Data retention definitions


On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au> wrote:

> Keep in mind this is a first draft at a discussion paper about what they want to ask for,

It is not a first draft.  It is an abbreviated version of the document they distributed secretly to ISPs in 2009/10.  Significant parts of it are word-for-word identical.

Make no mistake:  This is a policy which is coming from AGD, not from our elected representatives.  The Department is indifferent to who their A-G is.  i.e., the policy remains the same regardless of who we vote for, there is no realistic democratic choice being presented to the electorate.  If there's another election tomorrow, and the Coalition loses, this policy will survive unscathed.

  - mark


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