[AusNOG] Data retention definitions

Ben Grubb bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au
Wed Aug 27 20:13:40 EST 2014


They also want "information necssary to identifiy the type of communication", including "the type of service used"


That sounds like port information to me.
Regards,
Ben Grubb

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill at gmail.com>
wrote:

> "If one is required to keep NAT presumably they need to store source and
> destination IP addresses. The paper contradicts itself on that point no?"
> No - you can just keep source  (internal) IP, and the public IP/port it was
> translated to, at a specific time. There's a couple of different ways of
> configuring this logging on current CGN platforms.
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Ben Grubb <bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au>
> wrote:
>> If one is required to keep NAT presumably they need to store source and
>> destination IP addresses. The paper contradicts itself on that point no?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Grubb
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>> LOL wow.
>>>
>>> "Nothing in this data set applies to or requires the retention of
>>> destination web address identifiers, such as destination IP addresses or
>>> URLs."
>>>
>>> We just require everything else, no big deal. :P
>>>
>>> For those interested,
>>> http://images.smh.com.au/file/2014/08/27/5711351/Data_retention_consultation_1.pdf
>>>
>>> Page 4 is where the "good stuff" starts.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ayden Beeson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of James
>>> Andrewartha
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 3:35 PM
>>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Data retention definitions
>>>
>>> So the consultation paper has leaked [1], and it says data retention will
>>> apply to "all entities that provide communications services available in
>>> Australia" and while it won't require destination IP addresses or URLs, it
>>> will require NAT records to be kept.
>>>
>>> Just which entities provide communication services isn't defined, but at
>>> a guess it could include hosting providers and univerisities.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://images.smh.com.au/file/2014/08/27/5710838/Data_retention_consultation.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/secret-data-retention-discussion-paper-leaked-20140827-108yyh.html
>>>
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