[AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention

Jake Anderson yahoo at vapourforge.com
Wed Aug 6 11:59:26 EST 2014


Sounds like a good application for a "data diode" style thing for the 
storage at least.
Just dump all the logs to disk in a system that is physically only able 
to accept data.
Any requests for data get put onto usb stick and posted back ;->


On 06/08/14 11:33, Jonathan Thorpe wrote:
> The point I'm making is that it doesn't make it immune to the USA Patriot Act.  Under the broad terms of protecting Americans from "terrorism", the mere fact that the service is operated by a US company, even though it's hosted overseas provides US jurisdiction over the data.
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> We should be very concerned about the storage of this sort of data and where it could end up. It's a huge treasure trove of information waiting to be compromised. It's a massive target with substantial unrecoverable costs, so people aren't going to want to go out of their way to provide extreme measures of security around it.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bradley Amm
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> Amazon Glacier has Australian based storage http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
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> Bradley Amm
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Thorpe
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> I'm sure the NSA and friends able to enact the Patriot Act will agree :)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bradley Amm
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> Amazon Glacier for the win :) for this
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO)
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 7:24 AM
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> TIA expenses should be invoiced to the agency requesting them, so I hope we're all planning to invoice the agency asking for logs on new shiny NASs we're all buying for data retention.
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> http://about.me/terry.sweetser
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> On 05/08/14 22:14, Matt Perkins wrote:
>> I considered putting the carbon tax separately on hosting bills some
>> years back until lawyers said it was to hard. Perhaps now it's time to
>> consider at data retention levy.  Anyone else with me ?
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