[AusNOG] Cisco 7201 vs Juniper SRX 550 for border routers

Tony Wicks tony at wicks.co.nz
Tue Apr 15 14:36:40 EST 2014


To be frank here, with your requirements below you need better boxes.
Juniper MX5 for routing and Cisco ASR1k for BNG. If you got for the EOL
Cisco's or lower end SRX Junipers you will just need to change them out when
they run out of grunt. If you want cheap LNS then use Mikrotik CCR.

 

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Rhys
Hanrahan
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:21 p.m.
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Cisco 7201 vs Juniper SRX 550 for border routers

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

We are currently in the middle of upgrading some our network hardware, and
was hoping that I could get some input on deciding on a pair of border
routers.

 

Initially we were looking at the Juniper MX series for this role, but found
it's a bit outside our price range (for now). In trying to keep it all
Juniper (as we'll most likely use EX-series for our core and access layers),
we have been looking at the Juniper SRX 550 routers for our border. They
seem like they will do the job for our needs, but are missing LNS
functionality, which is something we'd have to purchase 7201s for in the
future, and so therefore I'm also looking at just buying 7201s instead.

 

Logically to me, since the SRX is (apparently) newer hardware, it should
perform better than the 7201s. My anecdotal evidence, however, suggests
otherwise, and I'm looking to confirm that in terms of real-world
performance. Comparing the spec sheets between the SRX 550 and the 7201, on
paper it looks like the 7201 beats out the SRX in terms of performance
(mainly PPS). It also sounds like the SRXs store multiple copies of BGP
routes in memory and so where a pair of full sets of internet routes for the
SRX is not possible, it's still possible on 7201s.

 

>From all that I've read and heard from various people, it seems that
generally, the Juniper SRX series is not held in a high regard in terms of
reliability or performance, compared to something like the MX series (which
is to be expected really). Whereas I hear a lot of good things of the 7200
series, despite the fact it's EOL, it's still being used and is a reliable
range. Due to these factors, despite it being an older router, I am leaning
towards the 7201s as it seems like an all-around better choice in terms of
reliability and performance.

 

My main hesitation in going with the 7201s is that, we'll be using them for
quite a lot, and I'm unsure of how quickly the performance will drop if I
start using more features. So I was hoping that someone could give some
real-world input so say which would likely be the better choice. Overall
right now, I'm still siding with a pair of 7201s.

 

Here is a summary of what we'll be using the border routers for:

*	BGP (Initially only a default route, but potentially 2xfull internet
routes in future. Plus IX routes.)
*	OSPF (Up to 50 or so routes)
*	Static NAT (up to 100K active translations) 
*	Up to 400 Mbps IP Transit
*	Up to around 25K ACLs (we currently firewall customer servers on the
border. We're looking at moving the firewalling off to a dedicated box like
an SRX or ASA, but probably not at our current size, if possible).
*	NAT64 
*	IPSec (around 10 Mbps of AES256/SHA traffic).
*	NetFlow
*	HSRP / VRRP
*	IPv6 Support
*	LNS (Up to 200 sessions).
*	MPLS PE
*	QinQ Tunnel / QinQ Termination

Appreciate any insights that can be given on which path to take.

 

Thanks!

 

Rhys Hanrahan

Chief Information Officer

Nexus One Pty Ltd

 

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