[AusNOG] Discussion point: Why aren't the NBNCo tails symmetric in speed?

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Wed Apr 9 21:39:15 EST 2014


Hey Chris,

I wasn't asked 'when' they were doing it, but more 'why' they aren't doing
it from day dot on the speeds they've chosen, which from what I understand,
the GPON being rolled out is fully capable of.


...Skeeve

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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Chris Gibbs
<Chris.Gibbs at gosford.nsw.gov.au>wrote:

>  Hi Skeeve,
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>
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> Depends if you can wait. NBN Co roadmap lists symmetrical services under
> Enterprise Ethernet Services. However, unfortunately not until 2016+.
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> http://www.nbnco.com.au/industry/service-providers/product-components/product-roadmap.html(2016+)
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> http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf (provides
> more details but the one above has updated dates.
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> given that NBN Co didn't release the latest roadmap release, it will be
> interesting to see if this product sticks around.
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> Cheers,
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
> Stevens
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 April 2014 8:53 PM
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Discussion point: Why aren't the NBNCo tails
> symmetric in speed?
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> Hey all,
>
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>
> I am sure this will spurn a healthy discussion... perhaps with conflicting
> views...
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> But I was wondering the other day 'Why aren't NBNCo tails sold as
> symmetric speeds?'
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> Considering:
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> - The transit the RSP buys is symmetric (nearly always)
>
> - The network core of the RSP is symmetric
>
> - The handoff to either NBNCo or an aggregator (and then NBNCo) is pretty
> much always symmetric
>
> - The PoI's core is symmetric
>
> - The fibre to the home is symmetric capable
>
> - The NTU is just ethernet - symmetric
>
> - Anything they plug into the NTU is symmetrical - ethernet
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>
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> Google Fibre in the US is 1G/1G in speeds...
>
>
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> So... unless I am missing something obvious (always possible)... Why are
> NBNCo tails not sold as symmetrical speeds?
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> I am not sure why there is this artificial design in these products to
> make them asymmetric.  There doesn't seem to be any gain by doing this that
> I can think of.
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> Gone are the days of DSL like speeds and unbalanced design... even ATM was
> symmetrical.
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> Keen for peoples opinions.
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> ...Skeeve
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