[AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB

Nick Gale nickgale at gmail.com
Tue Sep 17 19:13:05 EST 2013


Actually you have an error there. In both models the tax payer pays
nothing. The build is funded by govt debt.

Yes you end up paying it back but not through tax through service charges.

Nick Gale

E: nick.gale at westernpower.com.au

On 17/09/2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au> wrote:

Version 1…

TPG build it & if the offer is then low cost plus very fast, people will
buy it.

In those circumstances the tax payers pay nothing





In the Conroy model …

The tax payers pay for 100%

All fresh competition, possibly including the TPG FTTB rollout is banned

All copper is disconnected

All HFC is disconnected

.. thus allowing Mr Conroy to triple the price, provide lousy service via
‘the PMG-2” and you get the worlds most expensive broadband.















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*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB



Of course it has an impact on the NBN. The NBNs price model is, amongst
other things, dependant on scale and the number of premises connected.
Reduce that number by a few million, and the per-port price will rise
significantly, and those in less profitable areas ("the bush" as an
example), won't have their pricing subsidised by the commercially lucrative
connections (in "the city)".

On 17/09/2013 6:47 PM, "Tom Lanyon" <tom+ausnog at oneshoeco.com> wrote:

On 17/09/2013, at 6:09 PM, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:
> On 17/09/2013, at 5:14 PM, Nick Gale <nickgale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are you saying we should have the ability for NBN competitors? If so why?
>
> Because if you don't then private enterprise will build a bunch of little
fiefdoms where it will be uneconomical for anybody else to try to take
market share with diminishing returns, and as a bonus all those areas in
"the bush"       that the population as a whole is rather fond of won't get
any services at all because its not "economic" to do so.

None of which would be an issue, assuming that this is all occurring in
parallel to the NBN, right?

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