[AusNOG] ASIC ordering unilateral website blocks

Chris Simonis christopher.simonis at gmail.com
Thu May 16 09:22:31 EST 2013


The interpol list has a redirection to a stop page as per the link below
(at least if it's been implemented sensibly) so it should be easy to track
it back to the interpol list.

http://www.interpol.int/Media/Images/Crime-areas/Crimes-against-children/Stop-page

Considering the EFF had to speculate it was a result of the interpol list I
doubt that was the mechanism used. The traceroutes on their article
should've landed at the stop page rather than just disappearing.

If this was really government initiated it can really only mean there is
some other blocking mechanism the government has in place at the IP level
that we are not aware of beyond the interpol list.

Neither Telstra or Optus are mentioned as having explicitly blocked these
sites yet AAPT and Extel are both explicitly mentioned as blocking the IP.
Considering the comparative customer bases and the quantitiy of sites
blocked that seems very odd to me.

I do not support what has been done here if it was genuinely a government
initated block but I also don't think this was the interpol mechanism at
work.

It is a very very scary prospect that based on the ASIC and Department of
Communication statements they believe it's well within their rights to
extend the scope of internet blocking beyond "protecting the children".




On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:

> Spot on Matt,
>
> As Danny said in the email last night, it'll go as far as we let it
> without resistance, the more we resist the less likely it is to get worse
> fast.
>
> Thanks,
> Ayden Beeson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt Palmer
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013 7:41 AM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] ASIC ordering unilateral website blocks
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:13:50PM +0930, Mark Newton wrote:
> > Not illegal content. Not terrorism. Not child abuse. 1200 websites
> > wrongfully blocked because ASIC thought one of them might be a scam.
> >
> > http://delimiter.com.au/2013/05/15/interpol-filter-scope-creep-asic-or
> > dering-unilateral-website-blocks/
> >
> > Where's the limit?
>
> The limit is wherever a network operator (company, not individual) decides
> to make a stand and push back.
>
> - Matt
>
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