[AusNOG] More IP's for sale (/19 and /20's)

Joseph Goldman joe at apcs.com.au
Wed Mar 20 11:37:42 EST 2013

Previous sales I have gotten ridiculous offers such as $2-5 per IP, 
which is where my second comment comes from.

People are more than welcome to bid lower then the perceived market 
rate, however there is a line of genuine offer and silly bidding. At the 
end of the day I take the best offer that has been presented to me.

On 20/03/13 11:11 AM, Karl Auer wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:38 +1000, Noel Butler wrote:
>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:13 +1100, Joseph Goldman wrote:
>>>    I have more IP's to sell. Please contact me off-list. /19 and /20's
>>> only. MAY be willing to split down to a /21 if you can bring a second
>>> buyer with you to take the whole /20.
>>>    Please, only serious bidders only. Please recognise current market
>>> rates are $15+ per IP.
>> whos market rate?
> The "market rate", absent lots and lots of trading where prices for
> trades can be seen and thus affect future trades, is whatever someone
> will pay for it. I don't thing there is a market in that sense just yet,
> but one is certainly building.
> What's interesting for me in the above quote (and don't get me wrong,
> Joseph, I am not having a go at you) is the tone: "I have what you need
> and you'll buy on my terms". The terms suggested might have been imposed
> on Joseph by the actual seller, or they might be "tough talk" designed
> to soften up potential buyers before they even enter negotiations. Or
> they might be an indication that previous buyers have been so desperate,
> the Joseph now feels he can impose such terms with impunity.
> I would love to know what Joseph ends up getting for the space :-)
>> Thats 3 dollars per IP more than the few offers  I've had in recent
>> weeks, including since my comment on similar thread late last week where
> If those are offers, and not prices paid, then it rather suggests that
> you are holding out for a higher price, which rather suggests that you
> think you might get one :-)
> All of the above is purest speculation from someone not involved in the
> IPv4 address market at all, of course.
> Regards, K.

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